"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Calling a girl out on her BS?

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A girl(23) I matched with on tinder told me "I live too far away from the bus stop to be practical to go into town" when I asked to meet up.(it's -8ºC and ice/snow everywhere, I get it)

I said: "I have a car, let me know if you want to meet up"

The she went silent for 3 days, didn't even open the message.

Whatsapp said "last online: Sunday, xx:xxPM".

Now she messaged me to say she has been super busy and feels bad for ghosting, and asked if there is anyway I could forgive her.

How likely is it that she's BS'ing? What girl doesn't check her phone 200 times per day?

Her status DID say last online: sunday. Though.

Should I just tell her "You're a bad liar", or give this one the benefit of the doubt?

I moved the convo from tinder to whatsapp pretty fast,somehow on tinder we ended up acting like we had been married for years but I had amnesia and she had to win me over every day via tinder.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Should I just tell her "You're a bad liar", or give this one the benefit of the doubt?
You're thinking too much about this. Just ask her when she's available to meet up. If she makes it very hard for you to meet up, you have your answer.

"I can forgive you if we meet up like we were supposed to in the first place. ;)"
 

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A girl(23) I matched with on tinder told me "I live too far away from the bus stop to be practical to go into town" when I asked to meet up.(it's -8ºC and ice/snow everywhere, I get it)

I said: "I have a car, let me know if you want to meet up"

The she went silent for 3 days, didn't even open the message.

Whatsapp said "last online: Sunday, xx:xxPM".

Now she messaged me to say she has been super busy and feels bad for ghosting, and asked if there is anyway I could forgive her.

How likely is it that she's BS'ing? What girl doesn't check her phone 200 times per day?

Her status DID say last online: sunday. Though.

Should I just tell her "You're a bad liar", or give this one the benefit of the doubt?

I moved the convo from tinder to whatsapp pretty fast,somehow on tinder we ended up acting like we had been married for years but I had amnesia and she had to win me over every day via tinder.

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She´s playing games with you. She´s either just a sad attention whoare or a DUDE.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Stop being emo and go with it. Fact: she is lying. Another Fact: so what.

Women are flaky and will always be. Even more so when they haven't invested anything in you. You spoke on Tinder and whatsapp. Until you sleep with this girl, you mean nothing to her. And in some cases, even then, you will mean very little. All sex truly means is that in that exact moment, you are high enough on her ladder for her to spread her legs for you. Stop overthinking it.
 

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A girl(23) I matched with on tinder told me "I live too far away from the bus stop to be practical to go into town" when I asked to meet up.(it's -8ºC and ice/snow everywhere, I get it)

I said: "I have a car, let me know if you want to meet up"

The she went silent for 3 days, didn't even open the message.

Whatsapp said "last online: Sunday, xx:xxPM".

Now she messaged me to say she has been super busy and feels bad for ghosting, and asked if there is anyway I could forgive her.

How likely is it that she's BS'ing? What girl doesn't check her phone 200 times per day?

Her status DID say last online: sunday. Though.

Should I just tell her "You're a bad liar", or give this one the benefit of the doubt?

I moved the convo from tinder to whatsapp pretty fast,somehow on tinder we ended up acting like we had been married for years but I had amnesia and she had to win me over every day via tinder.

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Just shrug it off , push for seduction

It was a test to see if you go are clingy or not
 

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This is one of the reasons why I don't bother with dating apps or sites, let alone put much effort into dating in general. I have very little in the manner of down time when I factor in my job, gym and soon school related things. I can't imagine expending any time or energy into someone that is literally wasting my time for who knows what actual motive. I don't mean this as an insult, it's just I personally wouldn't have patience to invest anything into these women, whom I've never even interacted with in person, who are most likely chatting with a half dozen other men on that given day.
 

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Feela bad for ghosting you? .. no she doesnt. Chad dumped her the other day so she figured your good enough for now....
Yeah and I dumped a hot blonde 3 days ago, people **** and break up. Get with the times.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Feela bad for ghosting you? .. no she doesnt. Chad dumped her the other day so she figured your good enough for now....
It is irrelevant , they only exchanged some messages . Not even met in person :)
 

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This is one of the reasons why I don't bother with dating apps or sites, let alone put much effort into dating in general. I have very little in the manner of down time when I factor in my job, gym and soon school related things. I can't imagine expending any time or energy into someone that is literally wasting my time for who knows what actual motive. I don't mean this as an insult, it's just I personally wouldn't have patience to invest anything into these women, whom I've never even interacted with in person, who are most likely chatting with a half dozen other men on that given day.
Yeah I'm on benefits from the government and ****ing a lot.
 

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There ya go!.... fkn have at er! ... ^^^^
 

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@firstbornunicorn

This is one of the reasons why I don't bother with dating apps or sites, let alone put much effort into dating in general. I have very little in the manner of down time when I factor in my job, gym and soon school related things. I can't imagine expending any time or energy into someone that is literally wasting my time for who knows what actual motive. I don't mean this as an insult, it's just I personally wouldn't have patience to invest anything into these women, whom I've never even interacted with in person, who are most likely chatting with a half dozen other men on that given day.
Its a numbers game like anything else. If you aren't willing to generate enough volume your success rate will be low.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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she messaged me to say she has been super busy and feels bad for ghosting,
LMAO, the classic "busy" excuse. Can't women be more orginal these days?
What girl doesn't check her phone 200 times per day?
Gotta love this, too busy to spend 30 seconds to reply to a text but not busy enough to be on their phone all day. I always find it suspicious when a woman hides her "last seen" on WhatsApp

"I can forgive you if we meet up like we were supposed to in the first place.
Why would you keep chasing a woman who has displayed low interest like this?
 

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Why would you keep chasing a woman who has displayed low interest like this?
In my eyes, she initiated contact back with him and asked for forgiveness. This means she was thinking of him in some way, whether he was the 2nd option on her list or the 25th. It doesn't matter.

"Chasing" to me is exerting effort or if he would've contacted her. I don't see any effort OP has made other than chatting with her for a bit. If she's game to meet up and there isn't any effort, by all means he should take that chance if it's going to result in a lay. If she ghosts or try's to make it hard to meetup again, then obviously nexting is in order.

Trust me, I definitely have a short fuse lately with $hit like this but in this case, no chasing was done. Minimal effort was made by OP and girl contacted him back for another chance. OP I'm sure won't stand for breadcrumbs and be strung along and if she doesn't meet up, she's done.
 

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Let her know that drinks are now on her. Schedule a date and make sure you let her pick up the tab. It’s the only way you can get frame back.
 

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How likely is it that she's BS'ing? What girl doesn't check her phone 200 times per day?
Well most times it is pretty likely. My main plate/psuedo gf however may be an exception. I can't remember a single time she has ever checked her phone when we are together. She is also extremely busy at work and is pretty high up in her position and in zoom meetings all day so I am pretty confident she is not like this. She even has told me that she puts her phone in a different room at times so as not to be distracted.

But she is the exception not the norm.

The bigger question you need to be asking is why are you so hung up on this one woman who you have never even been on a date with or met?

So what, go match with 20 more, set up dates with 10 and bang 5. That's how it works...through volume. Not by messaging one person and then trying to figure out how to make it work with them.
 

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In my eyes, she initiated contact back with him and asked for forgiveness. This means she was thinking of him in some way, whether he was the 2nd option on her list or the 25th. It doesn't matter.

"Chasing" to me is exerting effort or if he would've contacted her. I don't see any effort OP has made other than chatting with her for a bit. If she's game to meet up and there isn't any effort, by all means he should take that chance if it's going to result in a lay. If she ghosts or try's to make it hard to meetup again, then obviously nexting is in order.

Trust me, I definitely have a short fuse lately with $hit like this but in this case, no chasing was done. Minimal effort was made by OP and girl contacted him back for another chance. OP I'm sure won't stand for breadcrumbs and be strung along and if she doesn't meet up, she's done.
I deleted her number after about 2 days of no reply, she just came back on her own.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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