What is the point of Marriage in 2020?

[RickTheToad]

Absolutely. Seeing the other side of the law right now going through my divorce I can't believe how absurdly tight the government is intertwined in the institution of marriage. You hit the nail on the head brother. Even if you don't get legally married, you can still get f!cked with common law, child support, etc. Gotta love that it is still heavily weighted towards the woman. I lucked out with no kids and a three year marriage. Everything is just split 50/50.

Did the same as you a bit over a decade ago. As soon as the paperwork had been signed, she started to change. First she wanted to be on the title of the house, I said hell no. When you have 50% of what I paid for it, I'll consider it. Lost a parent, then other family members and she got worse. Can't say we had a dead bedroom as we separated at my request and I filled for divorce during separation. The new lady has been hounding me for marriage, but I shot that down in the beginning. She's finally stopped as she knows I will have no problem letting her walk. The last three prior demanded marriage, I laughed and said buh bye. Over the past year or two they've said hey more than once.

Anyone, male or female, who thinks that they will, at some time in their life with have some wealth or a paid off asset would be NUTS to get married. Let's be honest here, dudes want access to her orifices. Females want access to his resources. That is all. Marriage just makes leaving nearly impossible without some serious financial and legal pain on top of the emotional pain.

 

[RickTheToad]

Fapping could be a type of religious venting so the dead bedroom would be an exclusion since there is nothing material to vent about.

No, it's a means to an end. Don't be this guy. Work on forming a purpose for you in life.

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[christie]

Why do they do it?

love for the children then love for ideal of family unit.

IDEAL OF FAMILY UNIT anecdote:
I still remember the pep talk my Dad gave the 3 of us at two major times in our family.

Summed up in this sentence.
'The most important thing is that we stick together'

First time during a dirtpoor time when we lived in my grandparents' small basement with multiple challenges while they saved down payment for our childhood home.

Second time when my brother moved out to the midwest here without the rest of us, but had sold us on how much cleaner and prettier and lucrative it was living here.

Strong will is the answer to your question.
Strong will to keep love and cohesion.
The personal decision that it takes hard work and protection to achieve this.(I know I was late 30's when I moved away from all the other relatives and familiarities but I was scared and felt relieved to have my father's assurance he would continue to protect me) It was an emotional backup kind of promise. Hard to explain because I already had been moved out for 14 years....there's just some men that exist that know how to make you feel safe even if they're not physically standing in front of you protecting you.

Another part of the answer to your question is that it is a certain breed of men. Code of honour kind of thing like military.

 

[RickTheToad]

If a bedroom goes dead its usually the guys fault. I bet if you investigate enough you would find this true. Guys get into these weird comfort autopilot programs.

Going to happen to disagree with you dude. But, I will concur that every case is different. A person, dude or lady, cannot get complacent in their relationships. If either does, the relationship suffers. As with anything in life, it takes work.

 

[RickTheToad]

Marriage is the best environment for raising children.

I disagree.. Maybe in the past, but not in 2020 and beyond. You actually have LESS rights as a married dude than a non-married dude. Example? Fine. She f ucks around and gets pregnant by another dude. By law, you are the father if you are married.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

love for the children then love for ideal of family unit.

IDEAL OF FAMILY UNIT anecdote:
I still remember the pep talk my Dad gave the 3 of us at two major times in our family.

Summed up in this sentence.
'The most important thing is that we stick together'

First time during a dirtpoor time when we lived in my grandparents' small basement with multiple challenges while they saved down payment for our childhood home.

Second time when my brother moved out to the midwest here without the rest of us, but had sold us on how much cleaner and prettier and lucrative it was living here.

Strong will is the answer to your question.
Strong will to keep love and cohesion.
The personal decision that it takes hard work and protection to achieve this.(I know I was late 30's when I moved away from all the other relatives and familiarities but I was scared and felt relieved to have my father's assurance he would continue to protect me) It was an emotional backup kind of promise. Hard to explain because I already had been moved out for 14 years....there's just some men that exist that know how to make you feel safe even if they're not physically standing in front of you protecting you.

Another part of the answer to your question is that it is a certain breed of men. Code of honour kind of thing like military.

Why do the women cheat those men?

 

[christie]

Why do the women cheat those men?

I don't know except for what #redpilled explains. I am fortunate this didn't happen in my family, but I've seen it happen all the way from grade school with my classmates' parents and even a few aunts/uncles in my own relatives' sphere getting divorced.

I never knew the reasons for all those divorces until #redpilled.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't know except for what #redpilled explains. I am fortunate this didn't happen in my family, but I've seen it happen all the way from grade school with my classmates' parents and even a few aunts/uncles in my own relatives' sphere getting divorced.

I never knew the reasons for all those divorces until #redpilled.

Greed and entitlement and the thing to do. Lack of respect for the relationship and ungratefulness.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I disagree.. Maybe in the past, but not in 2020 and beyond. You actually have LESS rights as a married dude than a non-married dude. Example? Fine. She f ucks around and gets pregnant by another dude. By law, you are the father if you are married.

Do you feel the "system" "knows" that marriage is a structure designed to control men and for wealth distribution?

 

[corrector]

No, it's a means to an end. Don't be this guy. Work on forming a purpose for you in life.

Parents Must Pay Son For Purge Of Porn Collection

DECEMBER 18--A Michigan couple will have to pay their 42-year-old son back for destroying his massive pornography stash, a federal judge ruled in a case that included the filing of a 43-page inventor

www.thesmokinggun.com

I don't have a porn collection or care about porn, even online, which means you have some serious stereotypes about me which are not true.

 

[christie]

Greed and entitlement and the thing to do. Lack of respect for the relationship and ungratefulness.

Yes.
Unfortunately, I've read right here on sosuave that these were the regretful reasons why men cheated too.

Awwww, its one of the saddest things that exist in the world. IMO.

Divorce. Cheating. etc.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yes.
Unfortunately, I've read right here on sosuave that these were the regretful reasons why men cheated too.

Awwww, its one of the saddest things that exist in the world. IMO.

Divorce. Cheating. etc.

Yes sad. How people will treat each other.

 

[christie]

Yes sad. How people will treat each other.

I did good by not bringing children into this world mrgoodstuff. A sense of relief no future part of me has to witness such stuff.

I just have to continue calibrating in order to learn how to attract my future companion now.

Sosuave and members like you help immensely.

 

[lost_blackbird]

If a bedroom goes dead its usually the guys fault. I bet if you investigate enough you would find this true. Guys get into these weird comfort autopilot programs.

And some literally would rather do anything but have sex. I used to make up excuses to avoid having sex with my wife.
It wasn't because she was unattractive, fat or unwilling. I just couldn't be bothered with the whole push/pull dynamic of
it all. Too much hassle to achieve a sensation I can quite easily duplicate alone, in way under half the time with far less
all round effort and which also conveniently entirely avoids any nakedness.

 

[SW15]

I only wish I read TRM senior year of college..... hahaha.

You would have saved yourself some massive frustration. You're 27. You did well getting out young. You're flying high having banged an ex-stripper post divorce.

While I consider myself to be a traditionalist when it comes to raising children, I've otherwise never understood the concept.

Statistically, around half of the marriages end in divorce, while those remaining married ... only half (or less) are happily.

... but even with such odds right in their face, everyone thinks that *their* marriage will be "different." These are the same people that hold me up at convenience store lines; spending money on lottery tickets because despite the odds, *they* are going to win.

If fellas buy Aaron's new book or just did the research, the numbers are trash. The common talking point is that divorce ends half the time. That's not a good bet but the real number is 80% of divorce is initiated by women and 90% of college indoctrinated women. The Kevin Samuels average at best vid that went viral is a stat. 35 yr old woman single mom 5/10 by her words, sketchy baby dad, and she wants a 1% man. 10% of men in America are making 6figures. No clue what percent is white, Asian, black, etc assuming she wants a black man, let's say 5% (I know it's far smaller), she simply doesn't qualify.

The marriage statistics are pretty bad.

My understand is that about 80% of marriages feature at least one of the following three things

-A divorce
-An affair
-A generally unpleasant, soul killing existence that continues on based on inertia or some other societal pressure

Raising kids is one reason for marrying. However, when the marriage fails before the kids turn 18, the kids are often messed up.

I have not slowed down nor allowed pandemic to detour me from getting girls. By that, I mean I am still sourcing. By no means am I implying it has not affected the SMP.

Pandemic has definitely affected the SMP. You are probably ahead of many if the pandemic has not affected you getting women.

@stringerpull and others can be a outlier. The same for religious lads. The problem is that, women hijack the religion, cherry pick verses, and are skiing down cawk mountain. Many Christian women are single moms, having abortions, and are a booty call in her best years. The biggest issue for me is that, any fallout ruins a man's life. It trashed him in the present and the future. If a woman gets fat, low sex drive, bitchy, and any boundaries crossed, a man can #next. A married man is cucked and divorce raped while FUNDING HER ON THE CAROUSEL. but I am preaching to the choir. Cucks are still lining up paying full price for expired.

Cucks are going to cuck.

Religion is a common reason why a lot of people marry. A lot of religions have a ban on non-marital sex.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

The marriage statistics are pretty bad.

My understand is that about 80% of marriages feature at least one of the following three things

-A divorce
-An affair
-A generally unpleasant, soul killing existence that continues on based on inertia

The problem is that, Hollywood is selling women very destructive and damaging idealogy. Women took the bait and like sheeple folllow the biggest D. This is the government. Men are low T, soy boys, and bending the knee to sluts. It is fascinating that level of brain washing and women piss away their best asset for a basket weaving and gender studies.

Raising kids is one reason for marrying. However, when the marriage fails before the kids turn 18, the kids are often messed up.

It's a pretty ****ed up thing to say but, tbh 100% truth, the experience of pickup and game sourcing girls does not make men like women more. Feminism screaming misogyny isn't a argument. If you approach 100 girls, how many pull? Flake? Ghost? Have chemistry with? You actually want to see after you bust a nut? From first hand experience, I assure you that It is very low and most of the time, you don't have any care beyond getting laid. Shout out to rsd Tyler who is the first person to recommend meditation and inner game if I am not mistaken. The reset is a must. I don't give a damn about most but I could say that about soy boys and low T. I agree with you about the data on kids and marriage. I dislike the women who wreck men and kids via divorce rapey. I agree with the mgtow about no marriage or state while I don't follow the same rules beyond bending the knee.

Pandemic has definitely affected the SMP. You are probably ahead of many if the pandemic has not affected you getting women.

Cucks are going to cuck.

Religion is a common reason why a lot of people marry. A lot of religions have a ban on non-marital sex.

I see more trad in Muslim communities. Then again, I took a uber recently and the driver bragged about marrying his cousin but I digress. I think it's the last hold out. I am curious about Rollos book on red pill and religion. I disliked reading alpha God but it is a fascinating but very soy. There's a red pill perspective that can be used for religion which coincides more with 'eye for an eye,' rather than the hijacked girl boss rubbish.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

You would have saved yourself some massive frustration. You're 27. You did well getting out young. You're flying high having banged an ex-stripper post divorce.

Thanks man! Sometimes I feel like I am not doing enough - but then again I just started gaming for the first time in 7 years about 3 weeks ago - so I shouldn't be too hard on myself!

 

[TheNewStyle123]

Did the same as you a bit over a decade ago. As soon as the paperwork had been signed, she started to change. First she wanted to be on the title of the house, I said hell no. When you have 50% of what I paid for it, I'll consider it. Lost a parent, then other family members and she got worse. Can't say we had a dead bedroom as we separated at my request and I filled for divorce during separation. The new lady has been hounding me for marriage, but I shot that down in the beginning. She's finally stopped as she knows I will have no problem letting her walk. The last three prior demanded marriage, I laughed and said buh bye. Over the past year or two they've said hey more than once.

Anyone, male or female, who thinks that they will, at some time in their life with have some wealth or a paid off asset would be NUTS to get married. Let's be honest here, dudes want access to her orifices. Females want access to his resources. That is all. Marriage just makes leaving nearly impossible without some serious financial and legal pain on top of the emotional pain.

Hahaha I love that one man.

 

[BMX]

To give each other COVID and not have any money at all in a joint banking account in 2020.

 

[RickTheToad]

Leader man
Follower woman.
Disagree all you want but nature is nature regardless of our minds.

If the girl will not follow you into a great secs life its a next....or prepare for rough road.
Women are cyclic but men lead the intensity.

Doesn't always work like that chico. People are not always rational and follow frame. They go into breakdown mode and just shut down. Can't group everyone into the same cookie cutter format. People act differently than others. That's why people are considered individuals, not lemmings.