firstbornunicorn
Master Don Juan
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What course did she buy?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Maybe she's upset because she wanted him to buy a nicer car$700? Thought you were going to say 20k plus, in which case I could understand her concern.
Do you have kids?"Why have you ruined something great that we've built up over 6 years?"
"Are you really choosing a car over your family?"
"I invested my money to be able to earn more money!"
Haha.Maybe she's upset because she wanted him to buy a nicer car![]()
Doing mechanical work is a masculine pursuit (well, it used to be, anyway). You'd think she'd find it attractive. Unfortunately, it sounds like she's put him in that box in her head where guys don't generally want to be, where she thinks he's on her leash.No, it’s all because it’s a “project” car. What she is hearing is “money pit” due to the cost to restore it and/or she assumes that he won’t finish it and they’ll be stuck with a clunker on the property.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Take the car back to the dealership and exchange it for a bus. That will show her!Hey!
I just bought a very nice Volvo S80 that is going to be my project in the months ahead and as I was expecting, she got really annoyed and pissed off when I got home.
I tried to be logical with her (yeah, I know it doesn't work with wahmen) by telling her about her investment just the other day. She shelled out €1000 on an online course and my car was ~€700.
I have to honestly say that I feel terrible for putting myself first as it's the first time in a long time that I've done it. Shaking and thinking about ways I can "make it right" with her. Then I remind myself to not be a simp and stand my ground. Having a personality disorder doesn't help either, but I'm working through this.
She's going to be in this mood for quite a while and I really don't know how I'm "supposed" to behave in these situations. I just wanted something to do besides sitting at home all day. Don't have much money, but I'll work on it over time to fix it up, remove the rust and clean it up as best I can.
Do I let her sulk?
Do I try to talk to her?
Do I just keep doing my thing no matter what?
Any insights is appreciated.
Not so actually. She’s selling her car to make his new purchase the FAMILY car. So it’s no longer his personal ride or space, it’s hers and the kids. She’s taking away his autonomy.Seriously, if she views selling her car as some sort of punishment, she's only punishing herself.
Better yet - He should exchange her for another woman, leave and not go back - That will really show her!Take the car back to the dealership and exchange it for a bus. That will show her!
And menLook in bold above for just an example of what I might've said but everyone is different in how they respond or handle a situation.
The feminism movement and weakening of males has really taught females how to control money that isn't even theirs unfortunately.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
OP is a troll.$700? Thought you were going to say 20k plus, in which case I could understand her concern.
A multitude of interactions like this might work in his favor:I would say the best thing would actually be for him to walk away and get divorced. Sadly.
When a woman is leading, something is wrong.Not so actually. She’s selling her car to make his new purchase the FAMILY car. So it’s no longer his personal ride or space, it’s hers and the kids. She’s taking away his autonomy.
She’s playing chess and she doesn’t like him doing what he wants on his terms. He will be falling back in to her frame just by her existing.
She owns him.
The only way to get any power back is for him to literally leave or simply not care at all about anything she says or really does. which won’t happen probably, because he's happy HE got to kiss HER goodnight after she acted up! He’s been 6 years of SIMPING HARD - That will be damn near impossible for him to reverse and still have her being supportive for him.
For his life and overall personal actualization... I would say the best thing would actually be for him to walk away and get divorced. Sadly. This woman exacerbated his negative view about himself. That or he needs to spend a lot of time away from her.
She’s his judge , jury, and executioner.
Well stated....Unfortunately the die has been cast - He has been a simp for too long, and she has been addicted to the power she wields over him.A multitude of interactions like this might work in his favor:
Him: I took a break from fixing my car to see if you'd want to go for a fun walk in the park and then maybe have some fun afterwards (kissing her on the back of the neck)
Her: I'm not in the mood
Him: Okay, I'll go back and rebuild the transmission. Love you! (leaves and closes the door)
The problem is, being a simp for a lengthy period of time has her conditioned to deal with a simp for a companion. People generally don't like change even if it's for the positive. There is a small chance, but he'll need to avoid caving to her demands when she wants them and instead expect her to cater to his demands when he wants them. She needs to be on his terms, not the other way around.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.