"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Quiting caffeine

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Other than just tapering off, are there any supplements are tricks you guys know of? I drink way to much coffee every day, plus energy drinks sometimes. I'm exhausted all the time. I smoke to many ciggerattes. I really need to cut this stuff out of my life but it's difficult because I just quit taking kratom again, I've quite drinking, quit cocaine, all I have left is copious amounts of caffeine and about a pack of cigs a day.

I wish I could get my hands on some chantix because not only did that make me quit using nicotine, I could barely handle a few sips of coffee and I simply didn't want more of it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Other than just tapering off, are there any supplements are tricks you guys know of? I drink way to much coffee every day, plus energy drinks sometimes. I'm exhausted all the time. I smoke to many ciggerattes. I really need to cut this stuff out of my life but it's difficult because I just quit taking kratom again, I've quite drinking, quit cocaine, all I have left is copious amounts of caffeine and about a pack of cigs a day.

I wish I could get my hands on some chantix because not only did that make me quit using nicotine, I could barely handle a few sips of coffee and I simply didn't want more of it.
How was your body's reaction to kratom? Did you experience any hair loss? I've heard it can cause your immune system to over-react since it's an immunostimulant.

Try some guarana powder and mix it with fresh juice. Guarana gives you a clearer head and doesn't kick in as fast as coffee does. Although guarana also contains caffeine, your body absorbs it slower due to its high amounts of tannins - this leads to longer periods of feeling energized and less caffeine crashes. You could also try green tea. It's rich in antioxidants, theanine and also supplies you with caffeine/theine. The theanine in green tea will help you calm down and fight off stress.
 

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How was your body's reaction to kratom? Did you experience any hair loss? I've heard it can cause your immune system to over-react since it's an immunostimulant.

Try some guarana powder and mix it with fresh juice. Guarana gives you a clearer head and doesn't kick in as fast as coffee does. Although guarana also contains caffeine, your body absorbs it slower due to its high amounts of tannins - this leads to longer periods of feeling energized and less caffeine crashes. You could also try green tea. It's rich in antioxidants, theanine and also supplies you with caffeine/theine. The theanine in green tea will help you calm down and fight off stress.
Kratom, well I started off on an oz a day right away. I used to take 4oz a day and it made me skinny, tired all the time, emotional, especially irritable. Kratom makes me feel very anxious. Of course still euphoria. Like feeling good, depressed and angry all at the same time. Manic.

With kratom I want to take more within a few hours. If I've been on it for a long time, and I stop taking, I can't sleep for a few days, i sweat, feel cold feel hot, extreme depression, and the lethargy can last a week or two, maybe more. I also get extremely restless for the first 3 to 5 days of quitting, i roll like a log in bed and get so frustrated I just get up and even pace sometimes.

Unless you have extreme discipline with it and don't it more than two days in a row, it's going to mess you up. It affects some of your opioid receptors and serotonin, so the withdrawals are very similar to opioids crossed with ssri withdrawal.

The benefits aren't worth it unless you're in extreme pain.
 

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How was your body's reaction to kratom? Did you experience any hair loss? I've heard it can cause your immune system to over-react since it's an immunostimulant.

Try some guarana powder and mix it with fresh juice. Guarana gives you a clearer head and doesn't kick in as fast as coffee does. Although guarana also contains caffeine, your body absorbs it slower due to its high amounts of tannins - this leads to longer periods of feeling energized and less caffeine crashes. You could also try green tea. It's rich in antioxidants, theanine and also supplies you with caffeine/theine. The theanine in green tea will help you calm down and fight off stress.
Infact for me personally, quiting crack and alcohol are way easier than kratom or other opioids.

What happens with any type of opioid is that you will literally need to to function. It's not worth it. Also phenibut withdrawals are terrible, as bad if not worse than benzo withdrawals.
 

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Quitting caffeine is an excellent goal. It's been a challenge for me.

I went from 2 cups a day to drinking half caff keurigs. So went from about 200mg of caffeine to 50 mg. Major difference in sleep and how relaxed I am. Cuts out anxiety big time. I drink more decaff now which seems to trick my mind or something in to thinking it's getting its fix.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Other than just tapering off, are there any supplements are tricks you guys know of? I drink way to much coffee every day, plus energy drinks sometimes. I'm exhausted all the time. I smoke to many ciggerattes. I really need to cut this stuff out of my life but it's difficult because I just quit taking kratom again, I've quite drinking, quit cocaine, all I have left is copious amounts of caffeine and about a pack of cigs a day.

I wish I could get my hands on some chantix because not only did that make me quit using nicotine, I could barely handle a few sips of coffee and I simply didn't want more of it.
I quit caffeine once. Cold turkey. Had leg cramps and headaches. Took Aleve.

Decided a few months later that I generally felt better with caffeine. Conscious decision. Not a caving in to a craving.
 

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Green tea works if you need the energy.
I am currently under medication and can't drink coffee. I gave it a try without coffee, tea or anything.
I'm a bit tired at 11 pm, but that's usually when I get in bed. Sleep has been a lot better lately.
I might just drink a coffee once in a while for the taste after I finish with the medication.
 

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I am addicted to caffeine. (Aren’t most of us?)

when I ween the habit I limit to 1 small cup per day and replace the other cups with green tea which has much less caffeine and more healthy stuff in it.
Green tea actually gets my metabolism going. I get a sweat like 15 minutes later.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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42 days off caffeine... no supplements or nothing to help with that. Just cold turkey.

Best decision I've made in my entire life.

Caffeine is the worst drug I ever been addicted too. Also, tried supplements in some past tries to cut it like teacrine and some other stimulants. It doesn't worth at all.

If you are going to quit, be as natural as you can. The first 20 days will be like hell or it can be even more, based on how long you've been using it. The more you use, the more the withdrawal lasts.

But when those bad side effects are gone, it worth way more than everything you experienced. Our body can give us a great amount of energy... We just need to give it the right fuel.

Drugs, foods... It all matters when we talk about energy levels.

One more thing: people you stay arround. It can mess with your energy. I'm just experiencing it this week... it messed up with me. And I really believe that we are all energy, and the environment and people around can influence that and this can have a huge impact on your life and even on your behaviors.
 

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42 days off caffeine... no supplements or nothing to help with that. Just cold turkey.

Best decision I've made in my entire life.

Caffeine is the worst drug I ever been addicted too. Also, tried supplements in some past tries to cut it like teacrine and some other stimulants. It doesn't worth at all.

If you are going to quit, be as natural as you can. The first 20 days will be like hell or it can be even more, based on how long you've been using it. The more you use, the more the withdrawal lasts.

But when those bad side effects are gone, it worth way more than everything you experienced. Our body can give us a great amount of energy... We just need to give it the right fuel.

Drugs, foods... It all matters when we talk about energy levels.

One more thing: people you stay arround. It can mess with your energy. I'm just experiencing it this week... it messed up with me. And I really believe that we are all energy, and the environment and people around can influence that and this can have a huge impact on your life and even on your behaviors.
I am a little bit behind you but one day I will be there too (in 2.5 weeks!!!!)

I think you're doing awesome and thanks for the info that it will take 20 days of no coffee before I start to feel better....
that will be before Halloween I will feel better keeping to the reduction schedule I set for myself.
Remember it can take 6 months or more to feel completely normal again.

You're doing great!! Keep going my friend! :)
 

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I've been off caffeine dependency for over two years with the exceptions of a coke, coffee, or tea on rare occasions.

A certain level of caffeine is ok and is actually good for weight loss but too much actually has been shown to affect your testosterone levels.

If you're a regular coffee drinker though, it's better to have it in the mornings when your cortisol levels are generally at the highest.

I just choose to not let any addictions run my life but I don't see any issues with it in moderation just like anything else.
 

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I just went on a caffeine detox last week and it sucked, but was not unbearable. I think quitting alcohol and cigarettes was far far worse. When it comes to quitting anything, I believe in cold turkey. I don't believe in tapering off anything because I believe it just prolongs the pain. I'd rather just get it over with. After about 3-5 days of zero caffeine, the headaches stopped and I felt pretty "normal".
 

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Ive done my 12 steps of N.A for drugs and alcohol

Im also now attempting caffeine, i can easily drink 5 coffees and 10 diet cokes on a saturday.

its even more difficult to quit, as it didnt destroy me like booze! Apart from some agitation if i drink to much.

I know for sure my bones crack, and gout flares up if i drink to much, and i roll my tongue.

trying again today

cant stand tea and fanta thats the problem
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I am a little bit behind you but one day I will be there too (in 2.5 weeks!!!!)

I think you're doing awesome and thanks for the info that it will take 20 days of no coffee before I start to feel better....
that will be before Halloween I will feel better keeping to the reduction schedule I set for myself.
Remember it can take 6 months or more to feel completely normal again.

You're doing great!! Keep going my friend! :)
Let's keep working on that! =)

The benefits is so great when you start to get out of the withdrawals.
 

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I think making/ordering decaf coffee is my winning tool here.
It looks, smells and tastes like reg coffee.
It's almost like nothing has changed....lifestyle-wise.

Find its closest looking replacement that's somewhat safer and healthier and a body can absolutely kick any addiction...any.
agree it can be kicked but sometimes abstaining fully from any kind of replica is the other alternative
 

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I just consume sometimes 1,000 mg of caffeine throughout the day. But really I'm just trying to not drink, smoke crack or use kratom right now. It's just that that much caffeine makes me feel like sh1t but I'll just keep consuming it anyways. I'll drink 3 12oz coffees first thing in the morning, then a couple energy drinks with 300mg of caffeine and maybe more later. It's just a bit ridiculous.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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