What the redpill got wrong

[Medina]

One of the premises of the redpill is that a mans mating strategy is to spread his seed with as women as possible, while a womans strategy is to pair bond with one mate

I actually believe the total opposite is true

Men are more likely to want to pair bond because it gives them a constant access to sex and ensures their genes survival. When relationships break down they hit men tremendously hard for this reason

Women on the hand are naturally flirty with everyone and sexually flexible, spinning plates comes naturally to them, they don't have to learn how to do it. When a womans relationship breaks down, she is rarely hurt but instead single and ready to "mingle"

I don't believe women catch oneitis nearly as much as men do. They are enamored by the top guys yes, but I don't think they love them

I also believe this is the reason women don't like clingy guys and instead go for indifferent guys, because they always want the freedom to swing from branch to branch

 

[Georgepithyou]

Women just love different things, you have the things women love and they will be all over you.

If other more attractive women fawn over you, then that will make her love you. Women are perfectly happy to share one high status man then have a beta male all to herself

 

[Spaz]

One of the premises of the redpill is that a mans mating strategy is to spread his seed with as women as possible, while a womans strategy is to pair bond with one mate

I actually believe the total opposite is true

Men are more likely to want to pair bond because it gives them a constant access to sex and ensures their genes survival. When relationships break down they hit men tremendously hard for this reason

Women on the hand are naturally flirty with everyone and sexually flexible, spinning plates comes naturally to them, they don't have to learn how to do it. When a womans relationship breaks down, she is rarely hurt but instead single and ready to "mingle"

I don't believe women catch oneitis nearly as much as men do. They are enamored by the top guys yes, but I don't think they love them

I also believe this is the reason women don't like clingy guys and instead go for indifferent guys, because they always want the freedom to swing from branch to branch

I am impressed, this means you had some fill of women in ur life.

Let's see what the rest of the virgins here say.

 

[SW15]

One of the premises of the redpill is that a mans mating strategy is to spread his seed with as women as possible, while a womans strategy is to pair bond with one mate

I actually believe the total opposite is true

Men are more likely to want to pair bond because it gives them a constant access to sex and ensures their genes survival. When relationships break down they hit men tremendously hard for this reason

Women on the hand are naturally flirty with everyone and sexually flexible, spinning plates comes naturally to them, they don't have to learn how to do it. When a womans relationship breaks down, she is rarely hurt but instead single and ready to "mingle"

I don't believe women catch oneitis nearly as much as men do. They are enamored by the top guys yes, but I don't think they love them

I also believe this is the reason women don't like clingy guys and instead go for indifferent guys, because they always want the freedom to swing from branch to branch

I see this as mostly plausible. Very nice observation!

 

[Who Dares Win]

Hard to say, I believe there are different types of men as much as different type of women especially according to the evolution of the group they belonged.

In a cold underpopulated environments women who branchswinged didnt last much especially if they missed a "branch" and surely didnt their kids lasted long.

On warm populated environments both men and women could afford certain behaviours, especially women since invading armies were mostly made of men only and women were usually part of the loot when winning.

Think of sicily invaded from greeks (mostly men except the commanders who could bring their wives), then from the romans, then from arabs and again from normans and so on...needless to say that branchswinging paid in such environments and its no coincidence that sicialian men are the most jealous ones.

Regarding men its also hard to say cause we have men that are very committed to being productive or reach a certain goal that see women/family as an item to fix asap before going back to work while we have other men that see fvcking as much as possibile a goal and not as a perk who take validation from that.

One sure thing is that populations with unstable families do not built skyscrapers or sent people to the moon.

 

[Epicenter]

One of the premises of the redpill is that a mans mating strategy is to spread his seed with as women as possible, while a womans strategy is to pair bond with one mate

I actually believe the total opposite is true

Men are more likely to want to pair bond because it gives them a constant access to sex and ensures their genes survival. When relationships break down they hit men tremendously hard for this reason

Women on the hand are naturally flirty with everyone and sexually flexible, spinning plates comes naturally to them, they don't have to learn how to do it. When a womans relationship breaks down, she is rarely hurt but instead single and ready to "mingle"

I don't believe women catch oneitis nearly as much as men do. They are enamored by the top guys yes, but I don't think they love them

I also believe this is the reason women don't like clingy guys and instead go for indifferent guys, because they always want the freedom to swing from branch to branch

There have been made scientific tests. It all has been settled.

Men don't know if the kid is theirs. Why would you invest everything in a kid that is maybe not yours?

You have the chance to make thousand babies for a a reason. Nature didn't give you this skill for fun alone.

Women can not make many children. They have to invest in what they have. More sex doesn't give much more babies.

Sperm is cheap so it's abundant
Eggs are expensive so it's rare.

Rollo Tomassi must have written 1mio papers about it

 

[Robert28]

Women suck at playing the long game. They don’t realize that when they lose their only strategy (looks) they lose it ALL. Some continue to try to play the games they always knew but they can no longer get away with it. Why do you think the cat adoption and wine industry is so popular? Why do you think the feminist movement promotes “strong and INDEPENDANT women”? Because they’re alone as fvck. A man can be alone and be happy, women can’t. That abundance they once enjoyed is gone forever and they waited too long to choose one man to settle down with.

 

[Dash Riprock]

One of the premises of the redpill is that a mans mating strategy is to spread his seed with as women as possible, while a womans strategy is to pair bond with one mate

I actually believe the total opposite is true

Men are more likely to want to pair bond because it gives them a constant access to sex and ensures their genes survival. When relationships break down they hit men tremendously hard for this reason

Women on the hand are naturally flirty with everyone and sexually flexible, spinning plates comes naturally to them, they don't have to learn how to do it. When a womans relationship breaks down, she is rarely hurt but instead single and ready to "mingle"

I don't believe women catch oneitis nearly as much as men do. They are enamored by the top guys yes, but I don't think they love them

I also believe this is the reason women don't like clingy guys and instead go for indifferent guys, because they always want the freedom to swing from branch to branch

Interesting observation but it 100% goes against our DNA programming and how we evolved as a species. You can't breed these tendencies out in a generation or two. It's like telling a lion to subsist on leaves and grapes.

However, culture has affected attitudes over the decades like the advent of technology and social norms. The other thing is that men have become so f*ucking weak the past few decades it's getting hard to differentiate the attitudes and goals of men and women. Women now seem to be the aggressors and are more goal oriented than young males these days. This is due in part to lower T biologically in men, again proven fact, and the proliferation of feminism. So today, you see women wearing the balls because most men don't have any.

BUT, if were talking how we're wired, men are the seed spreaders and women are the nesters. This is a proven fact.

If today's men would "man up" you'd see a radical shift in women's behavior and attitude.

 

[SW15]

Men are more likely to want to pair bond because it gives them a constant access to sex and ensures their genes survival. When relationships break down they hit men tremendously hard for this reason.

Constant access to sex is the key phrase here. Outside of the top tier men, most men are putting in a ton of effort to get sex. Men wish to retain their partners so as to not have to put in enormous effort to get laid. When marriages end in divorce, it is the woman who is filing for divorce 80%+ of the time. The woman is turning off the sex spigot most of the time. In non-marital relationships, it is likely the woman who is opting out of the relationship and breaking up with the man the majority of the time. With regard to app swiping first dates, typically the woman is offered a second date over 90% according to some female acquaintances I've known that use swipe apps.

Women suck at playing the long game. They don’t realize that when they lose their only strategy (looks) they lose it ALL. Some continue to try to play the games they always knew but they can no longer get away with it. Why do you think the cat adoption and wine industry is so popular? Why do you think the feminist movement promotes “strong and INDEPENDANT women”? Because they’re alone as fvck. A man can be alone and be happy, women can’t. That abundance they once enjoyed is gone forever and they waited too long to choose one man

This is partially true. There is no wall. The wall is really a soft padded cushion. There are plenty of women 45-64 who are getting plenty of interest on dating websites (the upper bounds of that group still uses websites more than swipe apps).

If you're a 55 year old woman with kids over 18 and independent and you have a normal weight BMI, your inbox on Match and OurTime is going to be flooded with messages from beta males. These betas rationalize that since her kids are over 18, they are no longer dealing with a single mom.

 

[Medina]

Notice the knife? No oneitis here huh. If your theory was true why not just walk out and call her other men?

Ill add that i think there is a lot of confusion between onitis for a man and being zeroed out. One might say that oneitis causes him to be zeroed out but i argue that he was zero before oneitis.

I'm not saying women don't get oneitis. They do. I'm saying they are more likely to move on than men are

I think break ups hit men harder. And that women are far more likely to end relationships in the first place

I think this is because women are natural plate spinners and branch swingers. They are more sexually open and flexible than men are

Men are more conservative and controlling. We want to ensure we are King to that woman and that our genes get passed on

 

[Lookatu]

Interesting observation but it 100% goes against our DNA programming and how we evolved as a species. You can't breed these tendencies out in a generation or two. It's like telling a lion to subsist on leaves and grapes.

However, culture has affected attitudes over the decades like the advent of technology and social norms. The other thing is that men have become so f*ucking weak the past few decades it's getting hard to differentiate the attitudes and goals of men and women. Women now seem to be the aggressors and are more goal oriented than young males these days. This is due in part to lower T biologically in men, again proven fact, and the proliferation of feminism. So today, you see women wearing the balls because most men don't have any.

BUT, if were talking how we're wired, men are the seed spreaders and women are the nesters. This is a proven fact.

If today's men would "man up" you'd see a radical shift in women's behavior and attitude.

I agree. For the guys fortunate enough to date pre-feminism and before internet got mainstream like back in the dial-up days, we were lucky to at least witness the different dynamics in dating that put us either on level playing field or gave us the advantage. And women back then didn't tolerate soy-boys or pvssies of any kind. Men had to be men or they couldn't get dates.

 

[Caelum]

Well, men are so feminized today that they think they can only get one woman. When they land her, they do everything to keep this woman. But if men grew some balls, and said no to a girl that had sex with 30+ guys then their attitude would change because they couldn't get away with it.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I’m sorry bro but this is the biggest load of bull**** I’ve ever heard. Women from the times before couldn’t afford to **** around like that because it meant that they’d have to carry a baby for 9 months. There’s also the fact that all throughout history there have never really been polyandrous societies, but polygynous ones were very common. You got it all twisted and wrong. There’s so many other factors I could point out right now that would further **** on this idea but it’s just not worth it lol just know that women were meant for one man only.

 

[Mbuckets82]

Dont women file for divorce more than men? I mean yes it could mean the men are cheating but also could mean she wants to open her legs elsewhere. I truly believe my ex didn’t like hearing the word No so found a guy she’d never have to hear it from again. Quick to roll out.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

One of the premises of the redpill is that a mans mating strategy is to spread his seed with as women as possible, while a womans strategy is to pair bond with one mate

I actually believe the total opposite is true

Men are more likely to want to pair bond because it gives them a constant access to sex and ensures their genes survival. When relationships break down they hit men tremendously hard for this reason

Women on the hand are naturally flirty with everyone and sexually flexible, spinning plates comes naturally to them, they don't have to learn how to do it. When a womans relationship breaks down, she is rarely hurt but instead single and ready to "mingle"

I don't believe women catch oneitis nearly as much as men do. They are enamored by the top guys yes, but I don't think they love them

I also believe this is the reason women don't like clingy guys and instead go for indifferent guys, because they always want the freedom to swing from branch to branch

I can't be bothered to listen to trp. A bunch of married dudes delusional in their head about still having it. They last approached via social circle. Rollo just rants on hours. I see them as a cash grab. The market is bachelors. I like Aaron Clarey but even he sees guys failing and no hot wife.

I think that its birth control, government edu, and the CC for decades is rotting her brain. Again, i subscribe to the Aaron Clarey enjoy the decline fellas.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Women in past times were viewed quite differently.

Well, ya. They weren't a detriment for your mental, physical, and financial well being.

 

[Epicenter]

You just have to look who is working harder for sex and who is paying more for sex. Who is watching more porn? Who has the higher sex drive?

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Men masturbate more than women, much more. Masturbation is considered by sex researchers to be one of the purest measures of sex drive because it is not much constrained by external factors (such as the need to find a partner or the risk of pregnancy or disease). Some people say that women feel guilty about masturbation, but that's not what the data say, at least not anymore.


In fact, it's mainly the (few) nonmasturbating men who associated masturbation with guilt. Nonmasturbating women generally say they just don't feel any inclination to do it. They don't need guilt to resist the impulse, because they aren't resisting, because they don't have the impulse.

There's plenty more. Men take more risks and incur more costs for sex. (Remember President Clinton.) Men want sex more often than women, whether one is talking about young couples or people who have been married to the same person for 40 years. Men also want more different partners than women want, and men like a greater variety of sex acts than women do.


Men initiate sex often and refuse it rarely. Women initiate it much more rarely and refuse it much more often than men. Given an opportunity for sex, men leap at it, while women say no. One classic study sent student research assistants out on campus to approach fairly attractive people (of the other gender) at random with the line, "I've been noticing you around campus and I think you're attractive. Would you like to go to bed with me tonight?" More than three-quarters of the men said yes. Not a single woman did."

The Reality of the Male Sex Drive

Is there anything good about men?

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[Epicenter]

You just have to look who is working harder for sex and who is paying more for sex. Who is watching more porn? Who has the higher sex drive?

Men are sex slaves I mean slave to sex.

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Men masturbate more than women, much more. Masturbation is considered by sex researchers to be one of the purest measures of sex drive because it is not much constrained by external factors (such as the need to find a partner or the risk of pregnancy or disease). Some people say that women feel guilty about masturbation, but that's not what the data say, at least not anymore.


In fact, it's mainly the (few) nonmasturbating men who associated masturbation with guilt. Nonmasturbating women generally say they just don't feel any inclination to do it. They don't need guilt to resist the impulse, because they aren't resisting, because they don't have the impulse.

There's plenty more. Men take more risks and incur more costs for sex. (Remember President Clinton.) Men want sex more often than women, whether one is talking about young couples or people who have been married to the same person for 40 years. Men also want more different partners than women want, and men like a greater variety of sex acts than women do.


Men initiate sex often and refuse it rarely. Women initiate it much more rarely and refuse it much more often than men. Given an opportunity for sex, men leap at it, while women say no. One classic study sent student research assistants out on campus to approach fairly attractive people (of the other gender) at random with the line, "I've been noticing you around campus and I think you're attractive. Would you like to go to bed with me tonight?" More than three-quarters of the men said yes. Not a single woman did."

The Reality of the Male Sex Drive

Is there anything good about men?

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[Epicenter]

Women have "abundance mindset" because they are literally living in abundance in the West, surrounded by thirsty cucked blue-pill-poossy-beggars.

Move your oneitis-ass to Manila and we will soon see who's getting the Oneitis (hint: not the men).

It's a basic supply and demand issue.

The issue of Oneitis male faggotry in the West is solely a male problem. Men need to start governing and shaming poossy-begging, which lowers the value of all men.

Did Genghis Khan ever suffer from Oneitis? I think not.

I am not shure if men want to risk that much anymore for sex. There is too much distraction there.

The one who do get a lot of sex I guess. Not much less than in the past I guess. It was always not easy.

 

[Medina]

The issue of Oneitis male faggotry in the West is solely a male problem. Men need to start governing and shaming poossy-begging, which lowers the value of all men.

Did Genghis Khan ever suffer from Oneitis? I think not.

Then how come marriage and life long partnerships are prevalent everywhere else in the world?

The West is the only place where men are encouraged NOT to have oneitis. It's openly practiced everywhere else

You wanna talk begging? If you are a girl walking down the streets of India, Italy or Nigeria... they will literally throw wedding rings at you

But everyone in redpill acts like its the white mans fault. There's something wrong with the white man and the west. Never the women.

I'm not buying it