"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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When she says she is busy and will call me later.

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derby1

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She is not just avoiding me but others too. I am sure it is because of the marriage and her daughter being abused. She is not trusting men right now that is all, that explains why she is always with old female friend.
shes friendzoned you, turned you into her emotional tampon, loves the validation off your thirst, and hangs round with some old bint because high value women her own age know shes a sperm toilet
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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"Hey listen, Can I call you later?" I am at my friends house and we are watching the sports"

I know the title of the thread says "
When she says she is busy and will call me later." No, that was not what she said.
And she never "called you later". All of us that said she is not interested in you are correct.

Move on.
 

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shes friendzoned you, turned you into her emotional tampon, loves the validation off your thirst, and hangs round with some old bint because high value women her own age know shes a sperm toilet
shes friendzoned you, turned you into her emotional tampon, loves the validation off your thirst, and hangs round with some old bint because high value women her own age know shes a sperm toilet
Please don't post on my threads any more. I don't like to be chased.
 

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Hell no! You should put the bait on the hook, move on, and don't look back. There are 2 reasons. First, it's a failsafe for when she doesn't call, and second, that is the way men behave. Women want men.

What do you mean in red color font?
Put the ball in her court. She has to call you, and if not, you're already gone.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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Put the ball in her court. She has to call you, and if not, you're already gone.
They never call. They assumed they know everything. Women have the same mindset, they think they are the prize. They do move on too, and shout NEXT. In this life, no one is indispensable, no one.
Now her former husband is behind bars. You wonder. She sees a new guy and goes over to find out who he is. Asks personal questions to him like she is the POPO. She tried to commit adultery or believe she will. Only she does not know her husband is ahead of her. God punishes people in unimaginable ways.
 
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