PUA outs himself on Instagram and women lose their ****.

[zekko]

I don’t think most women are looking for men who aren’t into them. I honestly don’t know any woman in my social sphere who is drawn to a man who sees her as not that attractive or little value. I don’t know who that works on, but it must work on some women I guess?

It's based in ideas from psychology - you want what you can't have, make her work for you, be a challenge, make her insecure and want to qualify herself to you, appear to have such abundance that she is nothing special, which demonstrates high value - that sort of thing.

It's just always fascinated that these kind of "takeaways" that are basically saying "I'm not that into you" are so much of a huge focus of PUA tactics, there must be some meaning to it. The message is that women want guys that aren't that into them, and that the Nice Guys who love and appreciate them more are cast aside as weak and boring. I guess it's a matter of degree.

 

[backseatjuan]

Hotter girls are turning 18 everyday.

But, like I said, many if not most women are already aware of this and there are countless blogs and subreddits where women write about how to look for red flags and dump guys who treat them bad.

Ayyyy! I just happen to watch recently an amazing video about 'how to spot women with advanced game'

Basically, TL;DR and the gist of it, younger women 19-20-21 don't yet realize what they have, it's older women, 27 and up that they begin to realize that they have the power of v*gina. Thus female game, the power of vag, you give me ______ I maybe be give you vag.

Entire female game is crap basically, because it is trade of diminished resources (older vag) for beta male attention. Who wants a 39 year old single mother with two kids? Anyone? Anyone? It's like looking for a guy to merry in a gay bar. They want an exciting male in their lives who will knock their socks off, instead they settle for a beta to whom they have low interest. That kind of match is truly made to last.

 

[El Payaso]

Ayyyy! I just happen to watch recently an amazing video about 'how to spot women with advanced game'

Basically, TL;DR and the gist of it, younger women 19-20-21 don't yet realize what they have, it's older women, 27 and up that they begin to realize that they have the power of v*gina. Thus female game, the power of vag, you give me ______ I maybe be give you vag.

Entire female game is crap basically, because it is trade of diminished resources (older vag) for beta male attention. Who wants a 39 year old single mother with two kids? Anyone? Anyone? It's like looking for a guy to merry in a gay bar. They want an exciting male in their lives who will knock their socks off, instead they settle for a beta to whom they have low interest. That kind of match is truly made to last.

I don't think that's true. Most women realize the power of their pu$$y by the time they're in their teens. By 20, they're already used to their immense privilege.

 

[AJ84]

It's based in ideas from psychology - you want what you can't have, make her work for you, be a challenge, make her insecure and want to qualify herself to you, appear to have such abundance that she is nothing special, which demonstrates high value - that sort of thing.

It's just always fascinated that these kind of "takeaways" that are basically saying "I'm not that into you" are so much of a huge focus of PUA tactics, there must be some meaning to it. The message is that women want guys that aren't that into them, and that the Nice Guys who love and appreciate them more are cast aside as weak and boring. I guess it's a matter of degree.

That’s the message that certainly seems to be taught. I agree there’s varying degrees and it seems to be based on the premise that men shouldn’t put women on a pedestal, that they should make her earn his emotional investment. And I agree with that totally.

How that’s communicated to her is another thing lol.

Will he make her feel like she’s just one of many, he can always do better, and he doesn’t care if she’s around or not, she’s just filler (pun intended lol). Will he make her feel that he likes her and is interested in her, but he doesn’t need her to fulfil his life. That’s a different vibe.

 

[AJ84]

I don't think that's true. Most women realize the power of their pu$$y by the time they're in their teens. By 20, they're already used to their immense privilege.

Yeah women in that age range know. They make up a significant portion of Instagram accounts and sugar babies are primarily college age girls so they know.

 

[JohnChops]

First rule of fight club...

This guy's an idiot. The reason women get their panties in a bundle when they hear this stuff is that no female wants the mechanics of seduction explained to her.

He’s the a##hole who explains a joke to someone.

 

[MatureDJ]

The reason they are so quick to anger is they feel TRICKED by a BETA, which is essentially the WORST THING that can happen to any woman.

 

[zekko]

That’s the message that certainly seems to be taught. I agree there’s varying degrees and it seems to be based on the premise that men shouldn’t put women on a pedestal, that they should make her earn his emotional investment. And I agree with that totally.

Yeah, it's just that there is such an emphasis on it. There's an article here that basically says if you refuse to buy a girl a drink, then she'll think you're hot because you "passed her compliance test" or whatever.

Someone here said that the reason there is so much emphasis on the takeaways is because the vast majority of men supplicate to women and put them on a pedestal. That may be true (maybe), but certainly not every guy does.

 

[zekko]

Women invented it. All pua tactics came from women. Women neg you to knock you down a few notches. Especially if you come across as too dominant. You'll make them feel insecure, so they resort to tactics like false takeaways to fvck with your ego to get you to chase.

The irony is that men enjoy women who are very into them. I'd argue that the more high interest the girl, the better the guy likes her.
It's women who seem to have the issues with guys liking them too much.
Mind you, no one wants to be stalked, but that's a very extreme example.

 

[AJ84]

Yeah, it's just that there is such an emphasis on it. There's an article here that basically says if you refuse to buy a girl a drink, then she'll think you're hot because you "passed her compliance test" or whatever.

Someone here said that the reason there is so much emphasis on the takeaways is because the vast majority of men supplicate to women and put them on a pedestal. That may be true (maybe), but certainly not every guy does.

Wow. That’s hilarious “How did your date go Susan? Great, at first I was feeling so so about him, but then when he refused to buy me a drink, I climaxed in my seat. He passed my compliance test. He’s the one.”

There are some tests for sure but the average girl doesn’t approach dating like a chess game.

I don’t think every guy puts girls on a pedestal either. Guys who don’t think with their penis’s tend to fair better it seems?

 

[zekko]

being the dominant male of the tribe makes women insecure and attracted at the same time. So you get ioi's by form of defense mechanisms like negs and takeaways. It was all amusing to me. I knew they were just being insecure

That would imply that guys who use negs as tactics are insecure also, does it not? I can see that, it would be like they think they have to "trick" a girl into liking them, and that their real selves aren't enough on their own.

I think the idea of negs originally come from "natural" guys who simply are busting on and teasing girls, just by treating them about the same as they treat their guy friends. Or as a more evolved version of dipping the curls into the inkwell.

 

[zekko]

A neg can be a form of a compliment but the real intent is to knock people down.

A lot of people see it that way. But Mystery said that the purpose of a neg was to "disqualify himself as a suitor". In other words, he wanted the girl to think he wasn't hitting on her, he wasn't interested in her. That way, she let her b!tch shields down, which gave him time to run his "game" on her, DHVing and whatnot.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

A lot of people see it that way. But Mystery said that the purpose of a neg was to "disqualify himself as a suitor". In other words, he wanted the girl to think he wasn't hitting on her, he wasn't interested in her. That way, she let her b!tch shields down, which gave him time to run his "game" on her, DHVing and whatnot.

Negs also show your not fearful and shes not over you.

 

[ubercat]

I have this weird enounter in the supermarket last night. these two girls were yapping in front of the vegetable aisle so I wait until they finished. to try and get my coleslaw. this very short chick turns the wrong way to walk off and just about bumps into me. Gives me a very aggro spray about how big guys shouldn't sneak up behind shorties. I could see she expected me to grovel. I smirked said I don't need to sneak up and walked off. Chick followed me trying to explain herself. Even angry feminists have this programming. Nothing wrong with pushing a few buttons to get it wet as long as you don't let that become your life. News flash chicks don't bond until fuct. So sorting process aka plating happens after that.

 

[zekko]

One reason why women don't like guys who are too into them is because a man being too gaga over women is a sign of weakness and dependency. And we all know men cannot be weak, we have to be strong. A woman can be highly into a guy and it's not repulsive because femininity allows women to be weak or dependent, it doesn't affect their attractiveness.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

One reason why women don't like guys who are too into them is because a man being too gaga over women is a sign of weakness and dependency. And we all know men cannot be weak, we have to be strong. A woman can be highly into a guy and it's not repulsive because femininity allows women to be weak or dependent, it doesn't affect their attractiveness.

When you treat someone like they are over you they will look down.

 

[zekko]

When you treat someone like they are over you they will look down.

Yes, but it's okay for a woman to do this (in most cases)

 

[guru1000]

One reason why women don't like guys who are too into them is because a man being too gaga over women is a sign of weakness and dependency. And we all know men cannot be weak, we have to be strong. A woman can be highly into a guy and it's not repulsive because femininity allows women to be weak or dependent, it doesn't affect their attractiveness.

It’s simple actually.

What’s already conquered is rarely appreciated. This goes for women too. The forbidden fruit, the unattainable, the guy who can never be gotten—that’s the guy they ALL want. (But this is not the guy they marry.)

It’s not rocket science. Just nature. And I respect Nature and Nature respects me in return

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yes, but it's okay for a woman to do this (in most cases)

Yep. When they are into you its submission. Its better for the man.

 

[Focal core]

That would imply that guys who use negs as tactics are insecure also, does it not? I can see that, it would be like they think they have to "trick" a girl into liking them, and that their real selves aren't enough on their own.

I think the idea of negs originally come from "natural" guys who simply are busting on and teasing girls, just by treating them about the same as they treat their guy friends. Or as a more evolved version of dipping the curls into the inkwell.

If you're so secure being yourself you won't knows what negs is.. Using negs means ure absurdly insecured.