apotheosis
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you're all male models or complete fantasists lol.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
You can get pity-lays if you are ugly though, so wouldn't that make it easier that way?Yeah that’s the way the world works. It’s hard for hot guys to nail hot girls; if you’re ugly it will be very hard. Either better yourself or lower your expectations.
A million times this, lolI don't think anybody here is talking about cold approach. It's changes everything.
1 in 30 is better than most pro PUA's.
1 in 50 would be exceptionally good. Would need good looks and good game
Take some random guy on the street and see how many COLD approaches it takes him to BANG some hot girl who doesn't pre-select him, and we'd be looking at like 500+ approaches. Maybe even thousands
COLD approach. I don't think anyone on this forum does that tbh lol
They're talking about women who has low to almost no IL whatsoever towards them in the beginning and turning it around with some strong game.1 in 50? What in the holy hell. That’s outrageous. If you can string a sentence together, have average looks (which is the vast majority), and know basic female knowledge you can get laid with ease. especially on apps like tinder or bumble.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
If this is true (which it isn’t, he just wanted to sell you the book) this is far more impressive than my numbers. I’m lucky if I SEE a 9/10, much less take one down. I maybe had 2 or 3 of those in my life.to give you an idea, I was reading the book today of someone who claims to be like, one of the best there is, and he talks about approaching like 5 girls per night, goinng out twice per week, and expecting to get laid with 2-3 girls in the 9-10 range per month, i think
At last. I honestly feel like i'm talking too a bunch of edgy teens from lookism at the moment. I need to take a break from this forum lolA bunch of lies in this thread. Even the best looking or richest man in the world will not have a 1:3 ratio. If you’re laying 1:50 hotties you’re doing well.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Your 1:100 lay from your own social circle could only mean that u r deemed to be of really super low smv that only the most desperate of women will even consider you.A bunch of lies in this thread. Even the best looking or richest man in the world will not have a 1:3 ratio. If you’re laying 1:50 hotties you’re doing well.
Bullshyt. There’s no need to inflate one’s own numbers. As I said earlier, it comes down to smv of both the girl and guy, logistics, age, and just pure luck. You will never bang 1:3 women.Your 1:100 lay from your own social circle could only mean that u r deemed to be of really super low smv that only the most desperate of women will even consider you.
YOU said something about 9s and 10s, so stop moving the goalposts. And that’s great that you can stoop as low as 7s (aka top 10% of women on the market.) Are you in the top 10% of men? No? Then stop pretending like you’re entitled to it.At last. I honestly feel like i'm talking too a bunch of edgy teens from lookism at the moment. I need to take a break from this forum lol
People should try to find similar threads from like masf forums etc when people actually approached to get an idea of 'real' numbers
And who said anything about 9's and 10's? I'm happy with anything over a 7. And i'm not about to get a load of plastic surgery to 'better myself' lol
Anyway, i'm done with this thread. I guess we can all agree to disagree!
Some men I know even has a consistency of 1:1...Bullshyt. There’s no need to inflate one’s own numbers. As I said earlier, it comes down to smv of both the girl and guy, logistics, age, and just pure luck. You will never bang 1:3 women.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
You know Leo DiCaprio!!?Some men I know even has a consistency of 1:1...
That’s 100% bull****. Lie to yourself, not the whole forum. No one has a 1:1 ratio.Some men I know even has a consistency of 1:1...
And yet u r here with a 1:100 success rate trying to teach me game?
Don't even try going there..
You don’t NEED to be a hot dude but the point is that if a hot girl is constantly approached by hot dudes, you’ll need to give her a hell of a reason to hook up with you if you’re not. That’s why social circle is much more effective because it means she can get to know your other traits. The problem is that some guys on this forum are probably very negative and toxic when you get to know them, so they do even worse than you’d assume on the surface.so this is a 'how good looking are you?' thread, basically.
I think a very good looking guy could bang like 1 in 10 'hot' girls
Although don't forget that some people (obviously not on this forum and thread, and not necessarily me either) believe that with 'game' you don't need to be good looking (top 10% of men) to bang hot girls
what other traits out of interest? Like humour and stuff? And even with them traits, you'd still never be in teh top 10% of men by your definition, no?. Like, You'd still look the same, lolYou don’t NEED to be a hot dude but the point is that if a hot girl is constantly approached by hot dudes, you’ll need to give her a hell of a reason to hook up with you if you’re not. That’s why social circle is much more effective because it means she can get to know your other traits. The problem is that some guys on this forum are probably very negative and toxic when you get to know them, so they do even worse than you’d assume on the surface.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.