King of the FriendZone

[stevieLA]

So it looks like this is now a "formal" facebook group. You have to be selected as an "organizer" to setup events with the group now and be approved for membership. It's the fat ugly girl, the ugly guy and some other random nice guy. It looks like you have to be on really good terms with the girl (wink wink) to become approved to set up events.

They're setting up a ton of events, like 3 a week now for at least the next month out. Whatever their motives, they are certainly leaving no stone unturned. The group is becoming like a collective don quixote; all of this effort leading to nothing.

Sadly, there don't seem to be any other better alternatives, except to manhor it at the local bars. Sigh.

 

[beforeimgone]

I'm puzzled by a situation of an acquaintance.

A great test case for "pickup theory." He does everything right: he is very assertive, confident, outgoing, sociable, organizes a ton of social events and parties. He dresses relatively well. He organizes AT LEAST one party or social event a week, sometimes more. Every week.

He has no problem talking to girls in our social group. Sometimes, he'll have long conversations with them. Usually not, but it happens. He has phone numbers for several girls in our group.

The thing is, he hasn't had a date the entire time I've known him, which is almost a year. I've seen him get rejected extremely harshly.

It's so strange that women find it easy to talk to him, will hang out with him at social events, but he can't get laid.

I don't understand why he's investing so much time when it should be clear to him that he's getting zero results. Is he of the mind that even these platonic interactions are better than nothing? Does he not get frustrated with having blue balls at every party? He invests so much more time with our group/s than just about anyone else, yet gets zero results. What's running through his mind?

To me, it seems like he is King of the FriendZone.

He's good looking but is a pvssy. Aka he doesn't push the interaction toward sex

 

[stevieLA]

He's good looking but is a pvssy. Aka he doesn't push the interaction toward sex

No, he is not goodlooking. The exact opposite.

 

[stevieLA]

If he is not at least Chadlite-tier in looks, it doesn't matter.

I'm the only guy in our social circles who has dated/sexed any of the attractive girls in our group. A couple of other guys have gotten dates with girls in the group but it went nowhere.

Also, he's lost his status since there are other people organizing parties and fun events now. He's not the only one. He's trying to compensate by adding even more events, but no one is attending.

 

[beforeimgone]

No, he is not goodlooking. The exact opposite.

OK so he's an ugly guy that doesn't get laid. What exactly is surprising here?

 

[stevieLA]

OK so he's an ugly guy that doesn't get laid. What exactly is surprising here?

The amount of time he invests getting zero results.

 

[stevieLA]

I have a friend who is like this. One day I told him to mention how he loves to eat out women when in conversation with femles. He thought I was crazy. A month late he texts me thanking me for helping him get laid. You have to offer some value. Guy who love going down on women have some value..... especially at a part where girls get drunk.

I actually had a friend try that as well. It made him look like a fool. It didn't help him get laid lol.

He couldn't attract cute girls so he went for the fat ones. He finally found one to like him back and married her.

 

[stevieLA]

The only logical conclusion I can reach is women are dumb as sh1t.

 

[stevieLA]

The organizer guys set up a happy hour event for this thursday. 14 rsvp's so far: 13 are guys! W.T.F.

So whoever mentioned it, yeah, you were right on point. On occasional girl will show up to these events and exploit these guys as gay BFF's, maybe get a few free drinks, get some validation from a harem of guys.

Several girls I've hooked up with over the past year from the social circle say they do exactly this, or act in this way without saying so.

This is some Don Quixote sh1t.

 

[GrowingPains]

I'm skipping the 2nd and 3rd page to say:

Why don't you just ask the guy? You've known him for a year surely your close enough to ask these questions, offer your input and see what he says. Rather than talking hypothetically on here...

 

[stevieLA]

LOL, no we're not close. Not even close to being close. He hates me thoroughly because I'm the only guy in the group who's dated the pretty girls in the group (not platonically). He brags about being my friend however, which is total bullsh1t.

He's a loser who doesn't even try to date. He's satisfied with the facade of having women in his life by organizing these events. However, he can't even maintain this facade since women no longer attend these events. It's a full on sausage fest.

 

[GrowingPains]

LOL, no we're not close. Not even close to being close. He hates me thoroughly because I'm the only guy in the group who's dated the pretty girls in the group (not platonically). He brags about being my friend however, which is total bullsh1t.

He's a loser who doesn't even try to date. He's satisfied with the facade of having women in his life by organizing these events. However, he can't even maintain this facade since women no longer attend these events. It's a full on sausage fest.

This is your opinion, right? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why you want to appreciate this question so intensely. And why having these speculative answers will help you when you could just all the guy and have all the certainty.

 

[stevieLA]

This is your opinion, right? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why you want to appreciate this question so intensely. And why having these speculative answers will help you when you could just all the guy and have all the certainty.

You are growing painfully obsessed with this guy. Probably rings a bell.

 

[GrowingPains]

You are growing painfully obsessed with this guy. Probably rings a bell.

Whaaaaaat?? That was... terrible. I'm telling you you're wasting your time writing a whole thread about this guy. Who's obsessed?

Anyway, good luck figuring him out. Peace.

 

[stevieLA]

Whaaaaaat?? That was... terrible. I'm telling you you're wasting your time writing a whole thread about this guy. Who's obsessed?

Anyway, good luck figuring him out. Peace.

You reach, I teach.

 

[stevieLA]

The women in these social circles have almost completely vanished. A stray fattie, or ugly girl, or married woman wanders in on occasion. There were actually attractive women in the group as of this summer, but they've ghosted.

Now, a dozen guys roll into a joint with zero females. How bad does that look? Unless things turn-around, I can't see how this group survives any more than a few months.

Honestly, the women who did show were pretty generous with their time. I was actually astonished by how composed and nice they were overall. It seems they are accustomed to scraping the bottom of the barrel. But the guys were just so sh1t-tier it made mediocrity look world class.

A couple of the solid dudes, maybe one tick above average were able to hook up with one of the fatties in the group, but that's pretty much the only nibble they got. I have a hard time believing this is the normal state of affairs.

This is the worst I've seen it for men. The sad part is I don't see it turning around anytime soon, and it could very well get worse.

 

[stevieLA]

It looks like these social circles have reached an equilibrium point. All of the hot girls have been filtered out and repulsed. Any cool guys are totally repulsed by the group.

What's left are the dregs of society. The last few bits of coffee grounds at the bottom of the cup. The refuse, the human waste. This includes the fat, the ugly, the disabled, the leftovers all congregating together.

What's strange is that they don't look that different from "normal" social gatherings at this point. It's like all of society is racing to the bottom forming a congealed mass of inferior forms of humanity. I should docu this sh1t.

It's a way for them to be alone together. No dates, no meaningful friendships beyond the totally superficial.