"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Being bitter about female behaviour = pointless

Infern0

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I see a thread about a guy who is going on a date with a girl he went to school with, and the replies don't surprise me for a minute....

See here's the thing, men and women have different things they look for in a partner

Men = is she hot?

Women = is he succesful, confident, attractive, etc.

That's just the way it is.

See how do we know that OP wasn't a "beta" who played runescape, had zero game, etc.

It's a shoveling off of responsibility.

Are you guys telling me, be serious here, are you telling me that if there was some fat girl in school who you never took any notice of, you wouldn't be interested if she turned up a few years later having undergone crazy weight loss and glommed up and now was a straight up HB9.

Yes you WOULD be interested, FACTS. Yet you throw shade at chick's for the exact same thing that you would do!

All the chest beating and bitterness towards women is emotional behaviour, it's butthurt plain and simple. It's also self defeating.

If you are applying the lessons from this site and having real success in your dating life, you wouldn't have this bitterness and resentment.

Of course this is not carte Blanche to excuse poor behaviour, but come on men... don't hate the player, understand the game.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Women hate comes when you are getting sht results over and over with women!
My understanding is, when that happens, since you are the common denominator, you need to examine YOU?

That applies to everyone, not just dudes.

Now, sh1t results could be simply be attributed to 'where you live', i. e. not having access to abundance/quality. But, if that is a truth, then you need to evaluate and take action based on that truth.

Need to six sigma it, for real
 

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I understand your point. Logically it is best thing to do but I also know that all these rejection and plowing from one cold approach to another makes me bitter and resentful towards woman. Even though my logically mind supports what you said emotions always win with logic.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Can’t disagree with this thread.

But, honest question, what if the guy doesn’t really know what the actual problem* is?

*We’ll assume that the guy has more than one strike against him. But, taking an 80/20 Pareto perspective, we will assume ONE problem/issue (that can hopefully be fixed or mitigated or compensated for) causes most of his issues with women.

Otherwise what happens is the guy tries a shotgun approach to try to fix everything that he THINKS might be wrong or might compensate for some unidentified issue.

He works out, buys new clothes and goes out to practice his “fake extrovert game” but still spins his wheels and wastes time and money lol.

I’m not trying to be difficult. This scenario happens a lot with some guys actually.

Obviously it’s not women’s job to give random guys feedback or critiques, but I hope you can see how it leaves some guys scratching their heads.
 

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Why people always making threads taking moral high ground and blanketing everyone under one banner?

We all come from different backgrounds and at different stages in life here so why take everything seriously, most people in that thread are supporting OP and some are telling him not to get too giddy/excited... while still supporting.

Is it a thing now to make threads passive aggressively attacking, humble bragging or other such beta behaviours?

Seriously question, no shade thrown. /kermit
 

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It’s understandable to get upset because it’s part of being human.

It is a waste of time and energy. Getting upset changes nothing and can affect your health,
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Complaining about the rules of a game not being fair goes hand in hand with losing. No one ever wins at something and then says it was not fair.
Like games of cards does it ever end? Winning one game doesnt lock you in position.
 

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Why people always making threads taking moral high ground and blanketing everyone under one banner?

We all come from different backgrounds and at different stages in life here so why take everything seriously, most people in that thread are supporting OP and some are telling him not to get too giddy/excited... while still supporting.

Is it a thing now to make threads passive aggressively attacking, humble bragging or other such beta behaviours?

Seriously question, no shade thrown. /kermit
It's not passive aggressive, I don't feel like any one particular poster needs calling out over it, it goes on a lot.
 
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