sazc
Master Don Juan
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We discussed this, wrong answerI was very drunk but not blackout drunk. I do remember a good chunk of the details.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
We discussed this, wrong answerI was very drunk but not blackout drunk. I do remember a good chunk of the details.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I mean the details were blurry hahahaWe discussed this, wrong answer
Sounds reasonable. Incidentally, I saw her today walking around campus after I went to class. She smiled and said hi but kept it moving after that. So there's not much I can really do about this. I'm just gonna put the focus back on improving myself and fighting against life. I'm not gonna blow up her phone and beg like an AFC. I guess this friendship is over until she reaches out to me. Which is kinda sad, because we got along really well.Meh, she's feeling like a slut and decided that avoiding the topic is the quickest way to move past it
That exact situation has happened to some of my closest friends because of jealous, crazy women. Luckily my buddies made it out unscathed. I haven't sent her a single text message that doesn't involve logistics. Other than attempting to call her, I haven't done anything.Its prob this but some women will turn this into molestation. And dont txt anything that could be turn agaist you
You are missing the point but whatever.I was very drunk but not blackout drunk. I do remember a good chunk of the details.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You’re too hornyShe’s deadly serious, and the gist of what she has to say is that she feels very disrespected
She says she’s drank with other friends and she’s never had moves pulled on her like thatshe would only let me kiss her half the time.
Even beyond hooking up with her, how can I recover this friendship?
You’re right. I know exactly where it’s coming from too. The idea of “I’ll show these b*stards that I know how to get all the women no matter what it takes.” That’s a pretty toxic mindset when I think about it. Probably doesn’t help that I’m on The Red Pill a lot. Maybe it is toxic like people say? I guess I need to chill out. When you think about it, I guess that would be considered an agenda.You’re too horny
You’re too horny
Probably not…
Realize that you made a mistake. We all do sometimes.You’re right. I know exactly where it’s coming from too. The idea of “I’ll show these b*stards that I know how to get all the women no matter what it takes.” That’s a pretty toxic mindset when I think about it. Probably doesn’t help that I’m on The Red Pill a lot. Maybe it is toxic like people say? I guess I need to chill out. When you think about it, I guess that would be considered an agenda.
I really really don’t want to lose this friendship. We were super cool. But I literally don’t know what to do. Do I call her tonight and tell her I understand how she feels? I feel like she’ll just ignore me. But honestly this really hurts cause she was a really cool friend
Sorry about the rant, I try not to let my emotions out like this usually
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Yeah... I honestly thought she was attracted to me but I guess I was wrong? I was so confused because when she was sober she let me kiss her the first time. I guess I went too far too fast with this one. How is it that I’ve read lots of books on Game yet I still make so many mistakes?Realize that you made a mistake. We all do sometimes.
Refine your game for the next girl, and don’t make the move if you’re both wasted…
Realize that you were probably too aggressive and read her IOI’s wrong…Yeah... I honestly thought she was attracted to me but I guess I was wrong? I was so confused because when she was sober she let me kiss her the first time. I guess I went too far too fast with this one. How is it that I’ve read lots of books on Game yet I still make so many mistakes?
I guess I’ll just have to keep learning about Game and Life.
You think I should call her tonight though? I can see how she feels like I took advantage of her.
I wanna talk to someone about this but I don’t wanna open up and talk about my failures that made me so angry all the time. Idk what to do
Y’know, I think if I hadn’t tried to hook up with her drunk this wouldn’t have been an issue. Because had we been sober, and she weren’t interested in me that way, I would’ve gotten rejected enough that my Two Strikes Rule would’ve come into play. Then I would’ve taken the hint and not come on that strongly, plus taken the hint from the IOIs.Realize that you were probably too aggressive and read her IOI’s wrong…
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
That’s great advice. Assuming she actually lets me call her I’ll do that.If you say anything, say that you respect and care for her and would never do anything to disrespect her
She's going to come back with "you took advantage of me when I was intoxicated"
And that's when you reply "here's the thing, that night is hazy for me too but I'm sure we were both interested"
Then drop it
In order to protect yourself you have to remain hazy and communicate that everything was consensual.
B1tch
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.