"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Women in the office: are they just looking for attention most of the time?

jnMissouri

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I've heard some say 90% of them are just looking for attention there. I have noticed I generally only get the "play hard to get behavior" if it's a woman at a place I frequent such as work, college (back when I was in college), etc. What's your take on this?

I will say I'm just asking for my own curiosity. I'm going to stop dating women at work. The most recent one I didn't want to date but she kept coming after me, texting me her number, etc. I'm really going to try to stick to NO work dating. At all.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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In my experience women in the workplace butter up to me because they want to be on my good side for later when they want me to do something for them. It can seem like a genuine interest when it’s not. Many of them get through well over half of their duties by pawning them off and other people in this manner. The worst part is that in their own minds they actually tell themselves that they are productive and useful. They consider you doing something for them their personal accomplishment. I used to date women from work but with all this me too sh!t now there is no freaking way. In addition I rarely will help one of them as I support gender equality. I am all for a woman’s right to show the world that “she is just as good as me, a man”. I wouldn’t want to be the one to deprive her of that opportunity, So I let her do her own work.
 

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In my experience women in the workplace butter up to me because they want to be on my good side for later when they want me to do something for them. It can seem like a genuine interest when it’s not. Many of them get through well over half of their duties by pawning them off and other people in this manner. The worst part is that in their own minds they actually tell themselves that they are productive and useful. They consider you doing something for them their personal accomplishment. I used to date women from work but with all this me too sh!t now there is no freaking way. In addition I rarely will help one of them as I support gender equality. I am all for a woman’s right to show the world that “she is just as good as me, a man”. I wouldn’t want to be the one to deprive her of that opportunity, So I let her do her own work.
In the work place we shouldnt be doing extras for a coworker. The exception is if they do extra for you back and forth. But you shouldnt do their job.
 

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SO ironic!

I literally just asked to transfer out of a group because the man I worked with kept telling management that he knew how to do everything, and would then come to me for help doing it

When I started 'being busy" ( too busy to be at his beck and call) he got butthurt with me.

I realized he was no win, unless I did what he wanted, so I asked to be moved to another group, figured he could deal with his job by himself.

I've never run into a man like that anywhere I worked. I was floored.

Edit: I didn't tell them that reason for the transfer, just said I was looking for more challenge, and I'm getting it :)
 

marmel75

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There are plenty of women banging guys they work with...in fact I'd probably say that almost all women have done this at one point or another. Whether any particular woman is interested in that is hard to say.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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