Do girls ever make the first move on a guy.. or ask them out?

[jonjones229]

My self confidence is pretty bad at the moment. Im 25 and have never had a girl cold approach me. I have only kissed three girls in my life. And girls have never asked me out on a date.

Does this mean im probably ugly? I want an honest answer. Brutal honest is better than a sugar coated lie that will make me feel better.

Reason I rarely approach women, im scared of being blown off like this

 

[jonjones229]

You're too ugly to be cold approached but that is a high standard. The vast majority of men don't get cold approached.

Thank you for your honesty. What looks rating men get approached?
like 7/10 face? or do they need to be like a 9/10 to be approached

 

[Music_czar]

You won’t get cold approached unless you’re in a place where girls are drunk and very slvtty. Even good looking guys who are built have problems being cold approached by women unless they run in the right circles.

These days, women approach men all the time and ask them to come over to fvck you just have to create the right conditions and be in the right place at the right time to make sure these things happen.

Don’t kick yourself, just be the best you can be and try to be as outgoing as you can.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

women typically have no social experience, like at all. it was very surprising first learning this.

when i was younger i used to ask girls I banged when they first started to like me. they usually said things like,

"when I first saw you I was so shy to talk,, but i really liked you"
"I wanted to fvck you the first time you talked to me"
"I really wanted to ask you out but no way could I get the courage"

these were attractive girls, bragging** (;

it blew my mind them telling me this because I couldn't pick up on NO SIGNS these girls even liked me in the first place. makes me wonder how many chicks I've missed out on because my game was lacking awareness of this...

it's internalized now to the point where I just assume every girl wants to bang because they do lololol

just a matter of lead the awkward shy horse to water

 

[Music_czar]

women typically have no social experience, like at all. it was very surprising first learning this.

when i was younger i used to ask girls I banged when they first started to like me. they usually said things like,

"when I first saw you I was so shy to talk,, but i really liked you"
"I wanted to fvck you the first time you talked to me"
"I really wanted to ask you out but no way could I get the courage"

these were attractive girls, bragging** (;

it blew my mind them telling me this because I couldn't pick up on NO SIGNS these girls even liked me in the first place. makes me wonder how many chicks I've missed out on because my game was lacking awareness of this...

it's internalized now to the point where I just assume every girl wants to bang because they do lololol

just a matter of lead the awkward shy horse to water

No social experience?? My man Chris you are still being naive and being a victim to their game.

Women are FAR more socially experienced at an early age than you ever will be. Everything they tell you is designed to manipulate you into doing what they want.

The vast majority of women, especially in normal social settings, will expect the man to make the first move. That’s how they chaff the betas from the alphas.

 

[jonjones229]

women typically have no social experience, like at all. it was very surprising first learning this.

when i was younger i used to ask girls I banged when they first started to like me. they usually said things like,

"when I first saw you I was so shy to talk,, but i really liked you"
"I wanted to fvck you the first time you talked to me"
"I really wanted to ask you out but no way could I get the courage"

these were attractive girls, bragging** (;

it blew my mind them telling me this because I couldn't pick up on NO SIGNS these girls even liked me in the first place. makes me wonder how many chicks I've missed out on because my game was lacking awareness of this...

it's internalized now to the point where I just assume every girl wants to bang because they do lololol

just a matter of lead the awkward shy horse to water

This is true that sometimes women wont give any signs. and I agree
because theres literally hundreds of girls I see every day that I would **** or find attractive, but they would never know because i dont tell them or show any signs. Just a quick glance.

of course some girls might make it obvious. I have a friend who is really handsome and girls grab his ass and even threatened to rape him. sucks being ugly or average

 

[Chi Town]

Absolutely, I been getting approached since I was in middle school but then again I'm good looking, but guess what? You can be average looking and still get approached because of you're vibe and presence.

Carry yourself like you're the sh!t and they will be drawn to you.

Most of the time it's them flirting, putting themselves in you're orbit, starting random conversations with you ECT.

Build up you're confidence, get attention from women then you're confidence goes up even more. Put yourself out there until you can build this confidence, stay positive, keep ya head up.

 

[lamath]

Happened to me a few time, but for like 75% of the time i never realized i was getting hit on.
Now im wiser i hope.... lol

I dont think you need to be super attractive, from what i gathered some women find me super attractive and other below average.
It depends on their taste imo unless your like a 10

 

[Ranger]

How are we defining an approach?
If she starts a casual conversation anywhere, even the register line, it’s an approach.

 

[evan12]

My self confidence is pretty bad at the moment. Im 25 and have never had a girl cold approach me. I have only kissed three girls in my life. And girls have never asked me out on a date.

Does this mean im probably ugly? I want an honest answer. Brutal honest is better than a sugar coated lie that will make me feel better.

Reason I rarely approach women, im scared of being blown off like this

No, it depend on look, location, status. for example old movie start will get approached more than young regular guy.
if you are in college chances to get approched is more than if you are working in factory .
every thing can be a factor ,however learn to be the chooser and approach women who you like, never wait to women to approch you

 

[backseatjuan]

Girls do cold approach. I'm a 6 myself and they do cold approaches and fcloses. It all depends on your value. If you're a nobody, even a nobody with good looks, forget it, although sh1t does happen I guess once in a blue moon. If you're like me own your own business, women will occasionally come to your office like they do with me, and just throw themselves at you. Some of it will be to get sh1t done for 'free' in exchange for sex, others will do it just because they find you hot (I'm 6) and want sex with you. I'm not sh1tting you, I have experience in this. Moreover I had some porno that happened this way in my office saved from my security camera. Wanna see?

You are more likely to be perceived by a woman as high value if you got your sh1t together. Have your own apartment, house, car, and number 1 goes to being a business owner.

It does happen, I don't see it happening in your situation though. This just means you will have to do approaches. I do not do cold approaches as per advice of great men. Women that don't find you remotely hot will not be interested so why waste time and sweat over this stuff. You gotta look for clues, plenty of videos nowadays on that subject. She throws you clue, you approach. Women expect men to approach, she will be flattered. Doesn't mean you score though. You approach and you raise your interest level in you, try to qualify her from the mind set of there is plenty more b1tches around, not just you one.

So in your case, you rated yourself 7, I doubt it. But in your case right now in this point of time, women will not approach you, forget it. However, women will throw clues at you, learn to read those clues, and learn to respond to them.

Now about being approached by a woman vs you approaching. Some of the greatest sex I ever had, greatest in duration, boner quality, orgasm quality, is when I approached and fclosed a woman. The other way around, when woman approached me and fclosed me, it wasn't all that at all. It was just flattering psychologically, it was more of a psychological gratification than sexual. It was 5 out of 10.

Do the work yourself. Don't say no to OLD, don't say no to field. As far as anxieties go, realize that the way they respond to you depends on the circumstance, has nothing to do with you, so don't take it personal.

 

[flowtheory]

I’m very good looking and most women just come in to my orbit to make themselves available. The only ones who say something outright are below 6’s. Or they are older women.
Aside from that women give signals. Eye glance and look away then look again, body language.

Most women want to be the ones being approached. Don’t think just because you’re not getting approached it means you’re unattractive.

 

[lamath]

I’m very good looking and most women just come in to my orbit to make themselves available. The only ones who say something outright are below 6’s. Or they are older women.
Aside from that women give signals. Eye glance and look away then look again, body language.

Most women want to be the ones being approached. Don’t think just because you’re not getting approached it means you’re unattractive.

its a bit of the same for me older women and 6 below most of the time, im always wondering how it hotter younger women

 

[wifehunter]

I wouldn't expect any woman to cold approach.

However...

They have no idea of your value, without knowing you first. But, after building rapport, and if you've reached a good level of progress... Women will throw themselves at you. You will be the poop all the flies want to land on.

It just takes time, work, and patience. There is no 'Mr. Awesome' pill you can take that produces instant 'lady killer' results.

 

[Spaz]

Absolutely, I been getting approached since I was in middle school but then again I'm good looking, but guess what? You can be average looking and still get approached because of you're vibe and presence.

Carry yourself like you're the sh!t and they will be drawn to you.

Most of the time it's them flirting, putting themselves in you're orbit, starting random conversations with you ECT.

Build up you're confidence, get attention from women then you're confidence goes up even more. Put yourself out there until you can build this confidence, stay positive, keep ya head up.

Agree.

Women will make covert approaches 1st.

Always.

All the time.

You just need to be able to read it.

 

[samspade]

I agree with many of the posters here. I've been "approached" but it's never overt. Even half drunk girls in bars use half measures (usually). But they do make it obvious in their way.

But this is all academic, because you've got to start doing more approaches to gain that vibe and confidence. If you wait on them you'll be waiting a long time.

 

[Chi Town]

you've got to start doing more approaches to gain that vibe and confidence.

This is it.....

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Life is strange,when I was in shape I was cold approached by women. Had a women leave me a note, had women find my number and call me (that's when I was younger) been followed in a mall, but for the life of me I can't get a match on tinder

Go figure

 

[redskinsfan92]

I get approached maybe a few times a year. One such instamce was bsck at Halloween. I was dressed up as s cowboy. She was a cowgirl. Somehow she ended up rejecting me despite many signs of interest. I couldn't hardly hear over the loud music in that place.

 

[marmel75]

At a bar or club yes. If they feel you are hot enough.