logicallefty
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If you really feel that way and want to put me on a time out, that's your call
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
If you really feel that way and want to put me on a time out, that's your call
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Her post breakup actions prove how much she really “loved”I don't know, and neither do you.
Her post break up actions are healthy. She's moving on. Everyone wants to be chased but healthy ppl realize when their time and investment are not valued, and they move on.Her post breakup actions prove how much she really “loved”
Remember.... What were her actions DURING the relationship? That's what you're supposed to watch, right? Seems to me she was totally into him. So by her actions, her professions of love were authentic.Sacz were her professions of love authentic or not?
I'm just going by what you guys espouse on this board. "Actions speak louder than words" she was totally available to him during their courtship and, from what he said, she supplicated, she did not create problems. Her ACTIONS were conducive to being emotionally invested.False, sample size is too short. By that logic every sociopath is authentic.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Still proves she didn’t love him, and that her actions during the relationship were all an act.Her post break up actions are healthy. She's moving on. Everyone wants to be chased but healthy ppl realize when their time and investment are not valued, and they move on.
What proves she didn't love him? Because she didn't fall apart after they broke up?Still proves she didn’t love him, and that her actions during the relationship were all an act.
For women this is “healthy” behavior, because it allows them to him right back on the c0ck carousel. Which is fine, everyone’s just looking out for themselves.
No, my reading comprehension is fine. I follow exactly what you guys espouse on these boards. What's good for the goose is not good for the gander? You just don't like they fact that you are wrongEverything's confusing to you because you have zero experience dating women
We do know what she really felt because her actions speak volumes.What proves she didn't love him? Because she didn't fall apart after they broke up?
No one knows what she was thinking or how she was feeling after he told her he didn't want to see her. Just because she moved on doesn't mean she wasn't invested.
Such a double standard, wow
EXACTLY!! and her actions during the relationship showed that she was supplicating to him, which means a very high investment and that she meant what she was saying.We do know what she really felt because her actions speak volumes.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
No, her actions post breakup show it was all a facade.EXACTLY!! and her actions during the relationship showed that she was supplicating to him, which means a very high investment and that she meant what she was saying.
Question I ponder: why aren’t more guys like this?We do know what she really felt because her actions speak volumes.
It’s no big deal, guys are used to girls faking their feelings and enthusiasm so they can get what they want. If more guys were like this, we wouldn’t have a need for SoSuave.
Neither is a prerequisite (just associated) for such acts.Because they aren't sociopathic and don't get narcissistic supply from compromising others emotionally.
Sufficient motive is not posting about women burning you on Sosuave—and—more importantly, not being a victim.There's no sufficient motive to do it unless you want these things.
Lack of options.Question I ponder: why aren’t more guys like this?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
How exactly? Is she expected to sit around crying her eyes out for months? Is she expected to continue to chase after being told she's not wanted?No, her actions post breakup show it was all a facade.
Supply and demand exacerbates the problem, sure. But we also know many women whom have great demand and fall hard. We also see men with very few options, who don’t.Lack of options.
These days it’s simply much easier for women to get a man than the other way around. When men fall for a woman they pour everything into her, whereas a woman always keeps plenty of social supports open.. friends, family, and new prospects for fwb’s and bf’s.
No matter how hard a guy tries he will never be able to duplicate a woman’s ability to find a quick replacement.
Women are the best natural seducers, what we try teach men here about dating and seduction is something that comes naturally to women from an early age because it simply falls in their lap.
Men have to work harder for it, and a lot of men get tired of working for things that aren’t that valuable in the first place.
No, not at all. But if you can't evaluate her behavior objectively, if you need to evaluate it only thru your own emotional filter, that's on youNo, her actions post breakup show it was all a facade.
It should be avoided by all. Never choose to be a victim.Yes for a narcissist those things must be avoided at literally all costs to protect the trauma ego
It really doesIt ultimately boils down to the strength of one’s inner frame.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.