“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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My intuition tells me it doesn't get better for men with age.....

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I would put my vote into the SMV > Age camp. Solidly.

People tend to forget, or never even realize in many cases, that SMV is not some government attributed number that you are stamped with and everyone else must abide by. It is a perception that is afforded to you by the will of other people. That perception is molded by the very individuals who will attribute value to it.

In essence, once you understand WHY a person can attribute a high SMV to an older person, many claims, as fantastic and fabricated as they might be perceived, tend to make far more sense.

Case in point:

I did not go straight to college after high school. I decided to travel for a few years. In fact, I didn't enroll into college until I was 23 years old.

In my first semester I met 3 extremely attractive, very feminine, freshman/sophomore women who were self-proclaimed "lesbians". I watched as countless men their same age tried and tried to hook up with them to no avail. BY the end of my 2nd semester I had slept with all 3 of them.

Now, right away I am pretty sure a few guys are going to read that and think I'm just some bragging motherfvcker making an outlandish claim.

But here is the reason why it worked for me:

These women had enough sexual experience to know what they liked and what they didn't like. They knew they received far more sexual gratification from other women than they did from 2 minute pump and roll over college boys their own age. However, they were still not old enough and experienced enough to have tasted it all; to have quenched all curiosities, one of which was what a man of older experience might be able to offer them.

Put simply, it was my "older" status that persuaded them to attribute a higher SMV to me than to other guys around campus. It was because of my age, not in spite of it.

So when a 40 year old man makes claim to bed 23 year old women, it doesn't seem so outlandish to me. I can see some very rational reasons behind why that can be done: SMV can often be attributed in ways that others assume would work against a man, or a woman for that matter.
Not going to college strait away after high school was a great choice imo, i wish i would have done the same.

Would have help me chose the right field of study instead of the one i chose.

good explanation SMV/age can not be seen as 2 different factors, they go together
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I would put my vote into the SMV > Age camp. Solidly.

People tend to forget, or never even realize in many cases, that SMV is not some government attributed number that you are stamped with and everyone else must abide by. It is a perception that is afforded to you by the will of other people. That perception is molded by the very individuals who will attribute value to it.

In essence, once you understand WHY a person can attribute a high SMV to an older person, many claims, as fantastic and fabricated as they might be perceived, tend to make far more sense.

Case in point:

I did not go straight to college after high school. I decided to travel for a few years. In fact, I didn't enroll into college until I was 23 years old.

In my first semester I met 3 extremely attractive, very feminine, freshman/sophomore women who were self-proclaimed "lesbians". I watched as countless men their same age tried and tried to hook up with them to no avail. BY the end of my 2nd semester I had slept with all 3 of them.

Now, right away I am pretty sure a few guys are going to read that and think I'm just some bragging motherfvcker making an outlandish claim.

But here is the reason why it worked for me:

These women had enough sexual experience to know what they liked and what they didn't like. They knew they received far more sexual gratification from other women than they did from 2 minute pump and roll over college boys their own age. However, they were still not old enough and experienced enough to have tasted it all; to have quenched all curiosities, one of which was what a man of older experience might be able to offer them.

Put simply, it was my "older" status that persuaded them to attribute a higher SMV to me than to other guys around campus. It was because of my age, not in spite of it.

So when a 40 year old man makes claim to bed 23 year old women, it doesn't seem so outlandish to me. I can see some very rational reasons behind why that can be done: SMV can often be attributed in ways that others assume would work against a man, or a woman for that matter.
What you say makes perfect sense but this SMV>age was not the original point, no one believes a ugly teen is better than a mature hottie.

This thing came out after someone said that older women are better than younger one generally, then when told that most disagrees, he reframed to save face putting SMV in the middle.

Anyway I dont think anyone is gonna accuse you of bragging or fabricating stories, you put face in this board many times and none of your behaviours conflicts with that you write.
 

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This thing came out after someone said that older women are better than younger one generally.
Show us where this was stated? You can't.
What you say makes perfect sense but this SMV>age was not the original point, no one believes a ugly teen is better than a mature hottie.
Enough backpedaling. Another lost thread for you. Class dismissed.
 

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Show us where this was stated? You can't.

Enough backpedaling. Another lost thread for you. Class dismissed.
oh you again? the millionaire who has hotties bombing his phone yet spend his day on a forum picking up drama with users and calling them names.

Lose my number, I only see you as a fr...orbiter :*
 

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t was my "older" status that persuaded them to attribute a higher SMV to me than to other guys around campus. It was because of my age, not in spite of it
Is THAT what we're talking about? I thought we were talking about a woman's SMV being a bigger factor than her age, in making er attractive.

But either way, I don't know anyone in this thread who is trying to refute that SMV>Age, so I'm not sure there even are different camps on this. I thought it was well accepted that women appreciate a little experience and maturity on their men (in other words Men>Boys).
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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But either way, I don't know anyone in this thread who is trying to refute that SMV>Age, so I'm not sure there even are different camps on this.
Regarding women in their 30s, I wanna see them naked as much as I wanna eat a steak that has been outside the fridge for an entire day in july...the taste and the smell are not exactly my thing.
don't believe that a 30+ year old, much less 42, passed as a 7+.
There's attractive older women but 30 is gross. Agreed, maybe at fifty.
+1

Top form smv is 18-23./ its spot on.

30+ hell, even late 20s, epiphany and reality check but gone to kick off.
Here you go. I won't name the posters as they have been embarrassed enough. Enjoy.
 

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Here you go. I won't name the posters as they have been embarrassed enough. Enjoy.
Okay, but I interpreted their position as being "An older woman cannot have a high SMV, because older women are not desirable". A subtle difference, but a difference nonetheless. Of course I disagree with them. I could see a guy who was maybe 19 years old holding that point of view. But even when I was that age, I'm sure there were older women that I found appealing.

My point is that age was never really a make or break factor. It was just each woman's individual preference.
That is as I would expect. But again, I thought we were strictly talking about a woman's SMV and age, not a man's.
 

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Okay, but I interpreted their position as being "An older woman cannot have a high SMV, because older women are not desirable". A subtle difference, but a difference nonetheless. Of course I disagree with them. I could see a guy who was maybe 19 years old holding that point of view. But even when I was that age, I'm sure there were older women that I found appealing.


That is as I would expect. But again, I thought we were strictly talking about a woman's SMV and age, not a man's.
Yeah as teens to young 20's we ALL found some 30-50 years olds to be some sexy SEXPOTS with a stacked accumulation of lust that we wanted to draw from like honey.
 

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Okay, but I interpreted their position as being [AN OLDER WOMEN CANNOT BE ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE SHE IS OLD]
False because:

SMV > Age in the context of attractiveness, thus an older woman can be encumbered by age, but outweighed by her SMV to render her attractive.
 

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False because:
SMV > Age in the context of attractiveness, thus an older woman can be encumbered by age, but outweighed by her SMV to render her attractive.
Well, I did say I disagreed with them.
But there is an old saying: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 

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Well, I did say I disagreed with them.
But there is an old saying: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Yes, to an extent, however photofeeler quantifies attractiveness over a spectrum of voters to arrive at a concrete value. So there is subjectivity only and insofar as a spectrum of different opinions if differences apply, but even then a mean score can be extracted and used concretely.

So we can deem an individual or picture attractive or not attractive once enough votes accumulate and further votes wouldn't materially change the scoring.
 
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