"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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she just gave it to me

just all seems to be way too good to be true
Very beautiful girl who is exactly my type who seems very interested in me. I'm sure she will end up being a catfish

the older pics where she was a thinner is my 10/10
she's probably the demon barber of fleet street
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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im talking to this middle eastern chick and she seems to be a very nice person who is also super cute but conversation just doesn't seem to flow

why you think this is?
possibilities:

1. one or both of you is awkward/shy around new people
2. lack of common ground/incompatibility
3. one or both of you sucks at holding a conversation
 

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possibilities:

1. one or both of you is awkward/shy around new people
2. lack of common ground/incompatibility
3. one or both of you sucks at holding a conversation
so why am I having great convo with the Italian chick?

I have a lot in common with the middle eastern chick. We're from similar region, are big into family values, same age, etc...
 

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Any takers on betting Dave will either totally screw the pooch with this woman or find an excuse not to make this happen? I am giving odds!!
 

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He made some progress but still mindset is at bottom 5%

Seems like his insecurities are killing his game.

I think some professional help to deal with those would help greatly.
Seems like he cant enjoy the present and always looking for some future problem, he need to be a hell of alot more spontaneous.


Dave the way you think im afraid you will end up getting a oneitis and because of it screw up the chance to have a real good relationship.

Oneitis is not good my friend, it make a man act needy in a way that almost always repell woman
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Any takers on betting Dave will either totally screw the pooch with this woman or find an excuse not to make this happen? I am giving odds!!
she will love me

my "presentation" on dates is excellent and i can make women feel very comfortable around me
 

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she just gave it to me

just all seems to be way too good to be true
Very beautiful girl who is exactly my type who seems very interested in me. I'm sure she will end up being a catfish

the older pics where she was a thinner is my 10/10
stop worrying about that. You need to be laid and not interviewing for a relationship. Thatll come later.
 

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He made some progress but still mindset is at bottom 5%

Seems like his insecurities are killing his game.

I think some professional help to deal with those would help greatly.
Seems like he cant enjoy the present and always looking for some future problem, he need to be a hell of alot more spontaneous.


Dave the way you think im afraid you will end up getting a oneitis and because of it screw up the chance to have a real good relationship.

Oneitis is not good my friend, it make a man act needy in a way that almost always repell woman
Oneitis means your not the prize and it eff up the rest of your life.
 

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Still have complete confidence in you Dave....to sabotage your own success and come here to whine about why she didnt deserve to be the mother of your perfect offspring. Time will tell.....
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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In many cases I would agree.

However, I'm not here to determine Dave's goals. I can care less if he fvcks her or spits in her face.

All I am trying to do is help the man take one solid step towards whatever goal he has. That in and of itself would be a great victory for him.
My opinion that his relationship goal isnt going to be met without taking this intermediate step. He wont even know his choices or respect himself enough until he gets in the game.

"Go get laid by 5 women and see if you look at it differently"
 

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My opinion that his relationship goal isnt going to be met without taking this intermediate step. He wont even know his choices or respect himself enough until he gets in the game.

"Go get laid by 5 women and see if you look at it differently"
Lots of people just dont get into the game.
Jump from ltr to ltr, and thats not good because the learning curve is much slower that way.

Harder for them to spot red flags because of it.
Ik i was that kind of guy,i hope i have learned enough now
 

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Lots of people just dont get into the game.
Jump from ltr to ltr, and thats not good because the learning curve is much slower that way.

Harder for them to spot red flags because of it.
Ik i was that kind of guy,i hope i have learned enough now
You know PEOPLE. The game is life. When we know people we can respind in just and we know what works and what doesnt work for us.
 

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He sells cars so he has no long game. He's used to closing deals in one day. He thinks women work the same way
 
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I posted pics on previous page, that's probably how it's going to look in real life

I want a woman with a hot fit body.
Then dump her and move on. Don't waste her time if you are not interested.

Enjoy being lonely and wondering why you are a victim in life
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Then dump her and move on. Don't waste her time if you are not interested.

Enjoy being lonely and wondering why you are a victim in life
lol he tries to pretend he wants a loving wife and happy family, but really he just wants a woman with a porn star/stripper/prostitute body to have sex with
 

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Then dump her and move on. Don't waste her time if you are not interested.

Enjoy being lonely and wondering why you are a victim in life
what if she is gorgeous and can easily get a very hot body with 5 months in gym? especially knowing that she used to be in shape. Am I wasting my time still?
 

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what if she is gorgeous and can easily get a very hot body with 5 months in gym? especially knowing that she used to be in shape. Am I wasting my time still?
you swirl in an anxiety ruled world of "what if's"

that must suck
 

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what if she is gorgeous and can easily get a very hot body with 5 months in gym? especially knowing that she used to be in shape. Am I wasting my time still?
Who cares. Liking her on potential effs things up. Maybe she doesnt want to be in shape.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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