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What's the deal with this Toronto chick??

devilkingx2

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I've never understood this "delete her number" stuff. It just seems so immature. Like what, is it taking up too much space on your phone? Or like you have no self control on whether or not you call her. I'd keep it in there just for identifying purposes in case she ever contacts you again.
The point of deleting a number is

1. Peace of mind. Out of sight out of mind as they say, no one wants reminders of bad memories or experiences

2. So you don't feel tempted to waste more time on a dead lead with a girl that'll give you nothing and get you nowhere.

That being said, dave is nowhere near ready to delete her number yet.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Dave why do you act like you've never talked to a woman before in every thread?

I don't agree that There's anything wrong specifically with saying "maybe I'll take you on a trip that'll cost us both $500+ one day" lol. Flying her to florida for a world famous amusement park is a wild over the top first date
she can't even come to America for a year or so. i thought i was just lightly flirting and testing the waters. I figured it was harmless and she would say "yea that sounds great "

I do agree that you're moving way too slowly though, 6 whole days of texting and you haven't determined interest and escalated yet??? You should be trading nudes and having phone sex by now lmao.
she won't even respond to something as harmless as what I said. You think she will respond to asking for nudes?
 

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Dave, do nothing. Sleep on it till Friday. Don't make permanent decisions based on temporary emotions
 

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she won't even respond to something as harmless as what I said. You think she will respond to asking for nudes?
1. Our reading of women is imperfect as they are complicated chaotic creatures. You will often be surprised how a woman reacts even if you were absolutely certain of her interest or lack of interest beforehand. Also you'll often find you do not know someone as well as you think

(the valedictorian of my high school who's getting a full scholarship to an engineering degree at a good college has like 50% of her snapchat and insta stories being about alcohol or modelling her victoria secret lingerie lol.)

2. It's totally possible that she's annoyed with you for beating around the bush too much and what she really wants from you is some escalation.

But no don't just go "nudes?" Or "nudes pls" work your way to it and be smooth. Start with regular selfies and convince her to make them get a little naughtier

or you can ask her questions to get to know her, then get to her bra size, then tell her you won't believe it til you see it and be like "prove it! ;):p"


she can't even come to America for a year or so. i thought i was just lightly flirting and testing the waters. I figured it was harmless and she would say "yea that sounds great "
I've told girls that our honeymoon is gonna be in Vegas and we'll gamble, bang prostitutes and see cool magic shows/circuses all whilst too drunk to remember it.

Nothing wrong with what you said imo.

she can't even come to America for a year or so.
Oh yeah this reminds me, so when's your trip to toronto? Christmas, new year's or Valentine's day?
 

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Dave, do nothing. Sleep on it till Friday. Don't make permanent decisions based on temporary emotions
the fact that she hasn't responded at all is just a horrible sign and I don't want to be reminded of my failures
 

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the fact that she hasn't responded at all is just a horrible sign and I don't want to be reminded of my failures
I used to live in the same cespool of anxiety that you force on yourself. Hopefully someday you'll get smart about not beating yourself up
 

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the fact that she hasn't responded at all is just a horrible sign and I don't want to be reminded of my failures
Yes it is. But sometimes women have to ruminate, an unconscious testing of sorts. If enough interest was present, Your silence and distance will make her wonder ... and she may swing back around, especially given you have mutual friends.

I hope she doesn’t. You will need a string of rejections to desensitize you and forge you into a real man. This dynamic serves a greater purpose than the girl.
 

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Yes it is. But sometimes women have to ruminate, an unconscious testing of sorts. If enough interest was present, Your silence and distance will make her wonder ... and she may swing back around, especially given you have mutual friends.

I hope she doesn’t. You will need a string of rejections to desensitize you and forge you into a real man. This dynamic serves a greater purpose than the girl.
I think more than anything, I need to find women around me

I'm a good looking dude with everything going for me. The fact that I'm considering pursuing a woman in another country is truly pathetic. It's just a reminder of how badly I've failed at dating.
 

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the fact that she hasn't responded at all is just a horrible sign and I don't want to be reminded of my failures
Failure is a part of life. The reaction to failure is what will rule you. Learn from your mistakes and try again with someone else. As for this one, it may not be lost if she reaches out to you. As for what you can do, reaching out one more time on Friday can get you back in the game.
 

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I used to live in the same cespool of anxiety that you force on yourself. Hopefully someday you'll get smart about not beating yourself up
picking up women and selling cars is shockingly similar

I have a perfect mindset for 1 and atrocious mindset for other
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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picking up women and selling cars is shockingly similar

I have a perfect mindset for 1 and atrocious mindset for other
You have issues that are rooted in your childhood
 

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You have issues that are rooted in your childhood
its kinda fukked up. The inferiority complex I built as a kid led to me pushing myself like a mother****er to improve myself so its not all bad

the issue was not that I felt i was inadequate because i was garbage. I felt that women only wanted impossibly perfect man

I'm probably more over this than I have ever been but I still deal with fear of success as much as fear of rejection. When you're just used to being miserable and lonely, its hard to imagine being happy...
 

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the fact that she hasn't responded at all is just a horrible sign and I don't want to be reminded of my failures
Let me tell you a story dave.

A month or two ago I hit a girl up on Snapchat after talking to her for a little while in class, after i asked her to get lunch with me she went totally ghost and ignored my next 3 messages or so that week. As the trail went completely cold I moved on

Started talking to another girl, that girl is too busy for my d!ck so that went nowhere really. But the first girl suddenly became way more interested in me when i spent my time in class talking to other girls instead of her

So now here we are, the first girl rarely ignores me now, our conversations are much longer, she isolates herself with me all on her own, she follows my lead, and plans to spend the 15 minutes she has before getting picked up every week with me, etc.

So the lesson here is that you should ignore her for a week while posting idly about other girls
 

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the fact that she hasn't responded at all is just a horrible sign and I don't want to be reminded of my failures
First off dave, get used to women leaving a text message hanging, its normal. If you're going to delete every woman who does this, then you will die alone.... and secondly you didn't give her anything to respond to, "maybe I'll take you one day", isn't something that HAS to be responded to. It's not a question... you just threw out a tease
 

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The point of deleting a number is

1. Peace of mind. Out of sight out of mind as they say, no one wants reminders of bad memories or experiences.
Maybe I could see it if it was someone I had a bad breakup with, but even then sometimes the years will heal those wounds.
But why would I lose peace of mind over a girl I've only been texting for a week.
I think if Dave is a little patient, she might make contact again. Unless she met some other dude, but even that could be temporary.
 

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I'm happy she stopped responding


I need to learn to hunt on my own without having it handed on a silver platter, otherwise I deserve to die alone
 

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Yup, that's the attitude! Going to die alone. Going to go in the corner and eat worms all by myself and tell myself how perfect I am in all ways. For the sake of all involved grow a pair, admit your gay, or bisexual, or what the hell ever and go find one of the billion of people out there that will put up with your bullshi*. Just the other day you post a thread apologizing for all the crap you post on this forum, but yet keep posting the same tired lament. Maybe you should just decide that you will become an incel, deal with it and be done. Dave no matter what anyone tells you, it is in vain for you don't listen, you keep telling yourself that you deserve some dark skinned super model type but freeze when you are around a normal woman. You need to get your head straight before any success with woman will occur. Please seek some professional help and LISTEN to what they tell you regarding the many issues you display. And Happy Holidays to you.....
 

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what ego? She tells me she's introverted, doesn't talk to strangers. From what I can see, she has almost no friends on facebook


An introverted incredibly beautiful chick who is genuinely a great person and is seemingly very interested in me? It just all seems WAYYYYYY too good to be true
Pay little attention to what girls say about themselves. Why are you taking to a chick from Toronto if you live in the U.S.?
 

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I like how dave goes through a full existential crisis when a girl doesn't respond for two days xD
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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