How Dating Apps Have Ruined Dating

[sosousage]

And the sad part is that that's a pretty old article. As of 2018 OLD has become crazier yet. There are lots of pretty women on OLD but the ones you hear back from aren't those. I've now started to weed out the ones who link Instagram because they are only there to drive their Instagram subscription and seek attention (some are actual magazine models, or model hopefuls hence the Instagram/snapchat trick to get you to follow them).

Both men and women are getting ADD from having so many shiny things to flip through on these dating apps.

I just read a profile of a cute chick a couple of days ago '...not looking to get laid, I don't need an app to do that...hahaha' <- so she's getting laid outside of OLD and she's happy to say that in a public profile- yet she wants to find a guy for LTR on OLD.

Another one was '...feed me, f*ck me, tell me I'm pretty, it's not that complicated guys.' <- this woman is an attorney, also looking for LTR.

Shameless b*tches. But I know there are plenty of decent women out there too and just like you and I they too are stuck in the OLD sh*t storm.

@RickTheToad - sounds like you and I are in the same boat and we have a very similar thinking (no short fatties, no hookers etc). The best advice based on my recent experiences is just slow yourself down, don't put in too much work. Things happen when you aren't too invested. In fact, I've gone all weekend without checking OLD except once and that was to respond to someone before the time expired.

shouldnt take dating that seriously or we would all turn into nietzsche or freud

 

[Bible_Belt]

Complainers want to complain. If it wasn't dating apps and the Internet, it would be something else.

This conversation is like being on a basketball court and all the guys who don't play well are saying that there is something wrong with the ball, and that is the cause of their failures. Funny thing though, that same ball seems to work just fine in the hands of the better players.

 

[corrector]

I know, dating, you are paying for it indirectly, but it just seems different just paying a lady for use of her mouth, vag and butt.

You have physical access to her. You can smell her, feel her hair, she's actually real. What you are describing is not what I experienced.

I give you credit there. You may pay for it, but at least is young hot ladies.

It depends who you are going for. They are all still quite used up.

It's easier prob. to do it in Florida than in CT. The undercover cops are all over the place. I can't have empty sex. To me, if I did, it would be like using a ladies parts as a masturbatory aid. Just feels weird. I remember when one lady gave me pity sex. She just laid there. I was so turned off I just got my stuff and left. I do not need pity sex. Some are able to get over that mental block, not so much for me.

I didn't feel like I was dealing with a masturbatory aid. I used to have a sex-toy. That was a mastubatory aid. A escort/hooker no, these were women. I danced with one of the women and she was like almost naked and her breasts were against my chest and I was totally turned on by that. At one point she took off her panties and flung them to the grown and bent over the edge of a bed with her bum exposed. So, the whole encounter with that escort felt intimate, like someone was trying to seduce me, and was totally fun. Time stood still, the whole thing cost $ 60.00. (no sex occurred here)

The second escort I dealt with the next day, well that was down and dirty. (while oral sex occurred with a condom, vaginal sex was refused although I masturbated on the front of her exposed vagina and held her bum while pushing her back and forth, not sure what that was). While it didn't feel like pity sex, I couldn't live with myself the next day (because I sinned and gave the devil legal right to torment my mind. After much repentance and prayer and with my mother's help, I got back on track and thankfully to Jesus I'm not locked up in a mental institution but have my right mind and have healed. ) You can't really digest the experience properly afterwards. What you describe doesn't sound like p1ty-sex but like "dead-fish" sex. I never had p1ty sex before the way you described.

 

[corrector]

I saw on HBO the other day on Vice they are using real hookers to get the Johns, so the Johns play the touch and see game, then when the money is exchanged the cops come in and arrest the John. If that happened to me, I'd probably just shoot myself once I made bail.

When I dealt with two Spanish escorts on Dec 4, 2014 at around 9:00 pm, and Dec 5, 2014 at around 11:30 pm respectfully, as a controlled experiment (and mistake I deeply regret doing and have repented from with sackcloth and ashes), they had to do 100% of the seduction and work. I didn't even knock on their door. They had to open the door while I stood in the front. This way, I'm an innocent guy who got seduced by these girls and was either waiting for the bus, or had to use the washroom but didn't know the place was an incall center. But they don't have enforcement like that up here.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Shameless b*tches. But I know there are plenty of decent women out there too and just like you and I they too are stuck in the OLD sh*t storm.

Don't create a you/her narrative unless doing Julien drama lol

Its not the same thing. Men and women have diff struggles.

Man wants polygamy for himself. Female nature wants hypergamy for herself.

Ideally, both should go beyond.

Initially, I came seeking a wife to pickup man years ago. Its knowing female nature, unplugging from my blue pill conditioning, provider male and safekeeping genes discarded. The question then is, what is there?

Something else.

[QUOTE@RickTheToad - sounds like you and I are in the same boat and we have a very similar thinking (no short fatties, no hookers etc). The best advice based on my recent experiences is just slow yourself down, don't put in too much work. Things happen when you aren't too invested. In fact, I've gone all weekend without checking OLD except once and that was to respond to someone before the time expired.[/QUOTE]

You shouldn't be overly invested but, man should be chain gunning cold approach to the point of spam. Swipe right @ life.

More importantly, discover something worth while to dedicate one's life to rather then being a sacrificial lamb for women.

 

[Alvafe]

I think most guys here forget the whole, go do something you wanted to do and then ask her to tag along, if she shows up or not it don't change much you would already be there and if she is boring you can always spend more time doing something else then spend time on her.

saying the dating apps ruined anything its kinds forcefull, dating with a app or not is the same, only its a easier way for females turn down men and think they can do better later, also note the online sites tend to make the mens pay to have access not females, so pretty much you aare already wasting money on low quality females, you really think a quality woman would ever be alone enough to even entretain the whole online or dating apps?

and if you guys want to look for hookers at the very least read how the laws where you life works for that, most places don't have anything or the very least are not active looking to nail people who does it, and if they do, all you really need to do is search over the internet, a couple of times I looked over the internet for then for curiosity and some friends who was complaining about wanting to have sex and we have a fun night laughting about how the sites over the internet work for the girls

 

[RickTheToad]

Complainers want to complain. If it wasn't dating apps and the Internet, it would be something else.

This conversation is like being on a basketball court and all the guys who don't play well are saying that there is something wrong with the ball, and that is the cause of their failures. Funny thing though, that same ball seems to work just fine in the hands of the better players.

I think the swiping instead of communicating is the issue. There's no substance anymore. Everything is pics and vanity.

 

[Trump]

I can't have empty sex. To me, if I did, it would be like using a ladies parts as a masturbatory aid. Just feels weird. I remember when one lady gave me pity sex. She just laid there. I was so turned off I just got my stuff and left. I do not need pity sex. Some are able to get over that mental block, not so much for me.

If you knew she was giving you pity sex, what did you think she would do, tie you up?

 

[RickTheToad]

If you knew she was giving you pity sex, what did you think she would do, tie you up?

She just laid there and said let's get you off. So depressing. Might not be Channing Tatum, but I'm not a charity case.

 

[Bible_Belt]

You just lowered your standards to the point of zero self respect to cope. I don't mean to be critical but let's get real here.

There are several other guys on here besides me who have little trouble with OLD.

The guys complaining about OLD have usually raised their standards to the point of being ridiculous, as a way to cope and feign some self-respect.

 

[HankHill]

The vast majority of guys here would never bat below the Mendoza line, standards or not.

What's the Mendoza line reference?

 

[RickTheToad]

The guys complaining about OLD have usually raised their standards to the point of being ridiculous, as a way to cope and feign some self-respect.

No, but thanks for your input oh wise wizard.

 

[synergy1]

Being tall, dark, and handsome doesn't hurt.

I run everything through my funnel. Spam, pull, smash, repeat.

yeah i don't know how really short dudes ( who don't lie) do it. Like I said in the other thread, im looking at 1-2 matches for every 100 initiated. I am listed as 6ft - north of 511 so no one would notice - and in shape ( I work out 5+ days a week). As I also said in the other thread, in cities I do just fine.

But yeah a lot of trash, and you have to just know when to try and close a # and when to move on. Time is precious.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

yeah i don't know how really short dudes ( who don't lie) do it. Like I said in the other thread, im looking at 1-2 matches for every 100 initiated.

Imagine chain gunning cold approach. Its actual work. Women cannot filter or hide being weird, a slob or crazy.

Hopefully, you have more going on in your life. Its about lifestyle.

A trick is to view work and everything as a game. As in play. Pickup is funny. Rejection is funny. I am daft. I'm an idiot. I don't care. More importantly, my **** won't suck itself.

100 yielding 2 matches means, you must step it up. Its 2 matches you didn't have.

Look, I recycle chicks, #s, matches. Pulls etc just cause. As in, smash or next.

As in, they can hit me up but #nextset! Its habitual. I am that guy.

Better pics.

Get a college kid to to it who needs money. Update LinkedIn while you're at it.

I am listed as 6ft - north of 511 so no one would notice - and in shape ( I work out 5+ days a week). As I also said in the other thread, in cities I do just fine.

So does every other guy. Myself esp. Deeded lol

its a given.

Guys and girls take notice. I think more guys recognize my genius given how much work it takes but its a lifestyle and hobby.

Of course, bitches be eye ****in but, I never seek it. I let it happen. If I look for it, it goes away. Its try hard.

But yeah a lot of trash, and you have to just know when to try and close a # and when to move on. Time is precious.

I always do. Few msgs. Digits or #next!

Cute Chick said she was leaving for school soon. She said she doesn't give her # out yo anybody.

No response. I unmatched. #next

Less effort individually. More spam. Volume. Run your funnel.


With cold approach, I self amuse, high energy, and I sniper. Pull first. As in, take hand lead her out of the club and to my back seat. If its impossible, I will take digits. If I don't get her out that week, #next

Lead. She follows or next. I like feminine. I like sexual. Attraction isn't a choice. Its there or not. Next set is GOAT.

 

[Solomon]

dating sucks for average men, for guys who have looks, money, status, tight game dating has never been easier if you're looking to pump and dump

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

dating sucks for average men, for guys who have looks, money, status, tight game dating has never been easier if you're looking to pump and dump

I completely disagree. They pull but what caliber. All guys I know who crush it are doing so but its not all 9s and 10s. Hell, I've seen 1 10 ever in my life.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Dating apps didn't ruin dating. It ruined marriage. Why commit when new girls are turning 18/19/20/21?

Swear away resources or smash sugar babies? ADJ from RMG said he pulls skanks off seeking arrangements. Lol

 

[redskinsfan92]

There are several other guys on here besides me who have little trouble with OLD.

The guys complaining about OLD have usually raised their standards to the point of being ridiculous, as a way to cope and feign some self-respect.

My standards are 2.
1. She isn't hideous.
2. She weighs less than me. (150 lbs)

Not too high of standards. I have trouble with OLD though.

 

[RickTheToad]

My standards are 2.
1. She isn't hideous.
2. She weighs less than me. (150 lbs)

Not too high of standards. I have trouble with OLD though.

Need to raise your standards dude. 150 LBS? What is she 5' 10''?

 

[redskinsfan92]

Need to raise your standards dude. 150 LBS? What is she 5' 10''?

Well, it is relative to height. Basically.if she is more than slightly chubby I have basically 0 attraction. I am more attracted to a wall thsn overweight women.