Most Men Have ZERO Selectivity

[ALnotAI]

I didn't write 'give a woman all your money' as you seem to imply. It simply means that you invest in ONE woman. It doesn't mean you give her ALL your money.

That's not good news at all. I will never invest 100% financially in a woman, if she doesn't help pull the load of living life she has no place by my side. They're supposed to be partners, not pets. Given this I'm willing to invest a significant part of emotion, but there's no such thing as 100%. For that she has to earn my admiration through more useful qualities than bedroom gymnastics and a pretty exterior. Especially if you're going to marry someone you should prioritize her character, not how hot she looks today because looks will fade and marriage is supposed to be reserved for a lifetime partner. There is divorce, but nobody wants to go through that.

The statement I quoted is the undoing of MANY men as they give it all for a woman, because in the cases the woman wants a divorce your life falls to pieces and chances are you'll be on the brink of suicide. What you're suggesting is reckless.

Never sacrifice yourself or give anyone the power to make or break your life, it's extremely foolish.

 

[17 shots]

My d1ck just shrunk just by reading the word "fat".

Must be my caveman DNA screaming don't fvck that whale of a woman !

I don't mind fat, if it's shaped right. Some of them are very curvy

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't mind fat, if it's shaped right. Some of them are very curvy

And pretty with good personality.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

OP I'll smash a fatty if she's got a huge booty, and I'll smash an ugly chick if her body is nice... I've got that real caveman DNA. Don't judge us

Butterfaces are the best. It's a hot body that lights my jets.

 

[wifehunter]

Butterfaces are the best. It's a hot body that lights my jets.

 

[marmel75]

It's a catch-22, it's harder for men to be selective because so many aren't. As a result many women are selective as men throw themselves at them and they do as anyone would do, pick the best and leave the rest.

Men collectively becoming more selective would not fix this issue in the short run, but in the long run it would force women into the same position as many men are in now, to become less selective or remain alone.

So how can most men have selectivity? Quite simply by being more selective. Giving up based on your rationalizations certainly isn't the way to go.

Most men aren't be selective because they dont get to a point when they have more women wanting to see them than time to do so. At this point you have to be more selective because you can't see all of them.

Most guys are simply happy to get laid and have a chick or two and a bunch of time wasters they have no chance with. If they would replace the time wasters with interested women they could become the selectors but they don't. Takes work and effort. It's far easier just to take what comes your way.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The good news is, there IS a path to hot women for normal guys: this means marrying a hot woman by investing 100% emotionally and financially in her.

Too bad this forum doesn't talk about this since this is in fact a) most guys' best chance of access b) these guys have a very high quality of life (not just because they married a hot wife but because they live a healthy lifestyle that includes. a strong monogamous relationship).

It seems like every time I see a married woman who is just stunningly beautiful and sexy, and then later see her husband, he looks fvcking miserable. It's obvious that there is a lot more to happiness than just having a beautiful wife. But that is hard to see from the outside looking in.

As the saying goes, no matter how hot she is, somebody somewhere is sick of her sh!t. If she is married, that somebody is probably her husband.

 

[Serenity]

I didn't write 'give a woman all your money' as you seem to imply.

I'm not even implying you wrote that, I'm quoting you basically saying that.

by investing 100% emotionally and financially in her.

What does 100% mean? Does that not mean "all"?

Maybe you exaggerated like many others on this forum, fair enough but you'll get more responses like mine when you do. Maybe you should be more clear next time...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Most men aren't be selective because they dont get to a point when they have more women wanting to see them than time to do so. At this point you have to be more selective because you can't see all of them.

Most guys are simply happy to get laid and have a chick or two and a bunch of time wasters they have no chance with. If they would replace the time wasters with interested women they could become the selectors but they don't. Takes work and effort. It's far easier just to take what comes your way.

I don't consider a female a "choice" unless the man has fvcked her and can fvck her.

 

[marmel75]

I don't consider a female a "choice" unless the man has fvcked her and can fvck her.

Not always...if you have women that want to fvck you but you prefer to fvck someone else this comes into play as well.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Not always...if you have women that want to fvck you but you prefer to fvck someone else this comes into play as well.

Yes agree. If they don't want to submit in that way it's not a choice.

 

[ALnotAI]

I'm not even implying you wrote that, I'm quoting you basically saying that.

What does 100% mean? Does that not mean "all"?

Maybe you exaggerated like many others on this forum, fair enough but you'll get more responses like mine when you do. Maybe you should be more clear next time...

It was already explained to you. You sound like a woman on your period, lol. Follow the advice of your avatar: relax.

 

[Serenity]

It was already explained to you. You sound like a woman on your period, lol. Follow the advice of your avatar: relax.

I know what you meant after you explained it, I just pointed out what you said originally which apparently did not express what you intended to say.

I don't sound like anything, I'm calmly sitting here typing this. What you hear is whatever voice you chose to present what I wrote, not a reflection of reality. I'm perfectly relaxed thank you.

 

[bigdave17]

Most women would be lucky to be near a "20%'er". Most women have to deal with men who are in their immediate environment and guess what? Most women don't live in LA, Miami, NY or have connections to top athletes, actors, business men and other people of note. Most women probably will not even be close to a guy who goes on to make $200k a year. Just because some ****head used the pareto principle in a dating context doesn't mean that's how it works.

you guys are so unbelievably delusional and disconnected from reality that it's hilarious

This website and the internet idea of a top 20% male is not top 20%, it's like 0.01% of society. Literally maybe 1 in 10,000. Let's break it down here

- the average 25-35 year old guy in the US makes 40K a year. A guy making 150-200K in that age range is top 1%, maybe top 0.5%

- The average 25-35 year old guy in the US looks like garbage. We're talking chubby, dresses horribly or just not very good facial bone structure. The online idea of a 6'2, 8/10 face, 8% bodyfat, lean and muscular top 20% male isn't top 20%. Again it's like top 1%. Walk outside your house and see how many good looking, tall, ripped, jacked, perfect hairline men you find. It's very rare

these things don't intertwine. I know lots of good looking guys who are very broke and i know lots of very successful guys who are are ugly or chubby.

So what's 1% of 1%?

 

[IKO69]

you guys are so unbelievably delusional and disconnected from reality that it's hilarious

This website and the internet idea of a top 20% male is not top 20%, it's like 0.01% of society. Literally maybe 1 in 10,000. Let's break it down here

- the average 25-35 year old guy in the US makes 40K a year. A guy making 150-200K in that age range is top 1%, maybe top 0.5%

- The average 25-35 year old guy in the US looks like garbage. We're talking chubby, dresses horribly or just not very good facial bone structure. The online idea of a 6'2, 8/10 face, 8% bodyfat, lean and muscular top 20% male isn't top 20%. Again it's like top 1%. Walk outside your house and see how many good looking, tall, ripped, jacked, perfect hairline men you find. It's very rare

these things don't intertwine. I know lots of good looking guys who are very broke and i know lots of very successful guys who are are ugly or chubby.

So what's 1% of 1%?

Obviously. That was the point of my point - my post was a critique of people who say it comes down to the 80 by 20 rule....but they don't know what the **** they are talking about. Your average man and that includes regular Joe's that society would consider only to be "decent looking" and "mildly successful" supposedly wouldn't fit the 20% bill....yet they are out getting women. People come on here and throw all these figures around and it not only ****s them up but it ****s up those who are looking for answers. Some men see this **** and take it as well "well i'm not in that category I might as well just give on life then"

 

[bigdave17]

Obviously. That was the point of my point - my post was a critique of people who say it comes down to the 80 by 20 rule....but they don't know what the **** they are talking about. Your average man and that includes regular Joe's that society would consider to be "decent looking" and "mildly successful" wouldn't fit the 20% bill. People come on here and throw all these figures around and it not only ****s them up but it ****s up those who are looking for answers. Some men see this **** and take it as well "well i'm not in that category I might as well just give on life then"

people online love the 80-20 rule except that they like to use the top 0.01% of men as the 20% rule

better to say it's completely hopeless than take personal responsibility for lack of results...and I'm talking to myself there with that too

 

[IKO69]

people online love the 80-20 rule except that they like to use the top 0.01% of men as the 20% rule

better to say it's completely hopeless than take personal responsibility for lack of results...and I'm talking to myself there with that too

Yes only .1% is scooping up ALL the women, there is no one for anybody.....yet go outside and what do you? You see ugly, handsome, poor, rich, all kinds of guys out with women. It becomes clear some people cling to A LOT of excuses rather than to admit their personal shortcomings.

 

[ALnotAI]

Yes only .1% is scooping up ALL the women, there is no one for anybody.....yet go outside and what do you? You see ugly, handsome, poor, rich, all kinds of guys out with women. It becomes clear some people cling to A LOT of excuses rather than to admit their personal shortcomings.

Yeah, that's my point. Or one of them at least. Guys within the average range of looks (a bit below and a bit above) can have relationships with hot women. But it's not realistic to believe that average-ish guys will rack up huge numbers of hot women. More like a handful at most, even more likely just one. Or maybe two at most.

And that's not a bad thing. It's great for a society if most men hook up with a small number of women such that most men are in relationships.

Most all pua's with a high number are rolling fatties and below average girls and slightly above average looking girls but pulling few if any hotties. They're pulling off the weakest in a pack.

 

[devilkingx2]

you guys are so unbelievably delusional and disconnected from reality that it's hilarious

This website and the internet idea of a top 20% male is not top 20%, it's like 0.01% of society. Literally maybe 1 in 10,000. Let's break it down here

- the average 25-35 year old guy in the US makes 40K a year. A guy making 150-200K in that age range is top 1%, maybe top 0.5%

- The average 25-35 year old guy in the US looks like garbage. We're talking chubby, dresses horribly or just not very good facial bone structure. The online idea of a 6'2, 8/10 face, 8% bodyfat, lean and muscular top 20% male isn't top 20%. Again it's like top 1%. Walk outside your house and see how many good looking, tall, ripped, jacked, perfect hairline men you find. It's very rare

these things don't intertwine. I know lots of good looking guys who are very broke and i know lots of very successful guys who are are ugly or chubby.

So what's 1% of 1%?

I think that's part of the same school of exaggerations as every girl is going to bang chad the moment you turn your back on her

it's meant to get a certain point/concept across, not to be literal. the idea is that girls want top tier men with LMS + personality and game and more, even if they're only offering looks at best, I'm sure most girls would love 50k a year, 5'9+, etc.

 

[devilkingx2]

But it's not realistic to believe that average-ish guys will rack up huge numbers of hot women. More like a handful at most, even more likely just one. Or maybe two at most.

https://onlinedoctor.superdrug.com/whats-your-number/
according to this, the most recent major study done on the subject, it's around 6-7 people in total, lifetime, for both genders

I imagine the amount of them that were hot depends o the age that the most sexual partners happen