"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Any experienced sosuaves tell me what was wrong with this woman

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I met this chick off social media fine as ****. I gamed her into hanging out and I came on strong to her. Ended up making out and eating her out in my car within an hour onlf hanging out. She was shocked and said things went way too far but I’m the kind of guy that’s gets women to do things they wouldn’t normally do so this is typical for me.

Long story short after talking for a few days we got busy and I felt like she lost interest because she assumed I was doing things like that with every girl. She said I was a “hoe” lol....I explain to her that it’s a woman’s job to draw boundaries on a first date and she let me do those things to her.

Some time goes by...i offer to spend some money on her taking her shopping etc. She comes to my house and of course I don’t give her money or take her shopping It was a lie but I **** her anyways. She’s like “I don’t care that you didn’t pay me obviously because I like you but that’s not cool to lie”. I tell her to shut up and get me a coffee and she does. Shes a submissive *****

Two days later I **** her again and of course don’t give her a thing. However the condom breaks, I *** in her and she freaks out and completely ruins the good sex by demanding I get a plan b pill for her and starts asking me when I last got tested. She panics and it of course ruins everything....

I ignore her for a few days because I’m turned off by her anxiety at this point. A week later I try to get in her pants again and she’s asking me for an allowance to have a ****buddy type of relationship!!!

Speechless I tell her she’s a worthless hoe and crazy if she thinks is I would give her any money for sex. I then proceed to text her a picture of a better looking chick I’m taking out this weekend to ma nake her jealois and we both hate eachother now. Not saying she’s not a worthless crazy ***** but she’s hot and I would like to keep her around as a ****buddy while I continue to date. Any suggestions to get her back in the sack?

I said some ****ed up things..told her that her own dad doesn’t want her why would I and called her a worthless hoe.

I could care less if she doesn’t want a relationship with me ....the fact that she wrote me off because I was able to get in her pants the first night tells me how stupid she is....but her ass and ***** are top
Notch and Im missing it.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I tell her she’s a worthless hoe and crazy if she thinks is I would give her any money for sex and we both hate eachother now. Not saying she’s not a worthless crazy ***** but she’s hot and I would like to keep her around as a ****buddy while I continue to date. Any suggestions to get her back? I said some ****ed up things
Well my number one tip would be to not say f***ed up things, lol. I know that sounds like a snarky d*ck answer but I mean it.

Sounds like she gave you everything you wanted and you repaid it by treating her like garbage and giving her nothing but the physical stuff. Not sure that's particularly "DJ"...you've clearly got good game (and you don't want to get clowned by a woman/orbited) but that's different from just treating her like s**t and insulting her.

This sounds like game over in this case, next time I'd draw a line between being a player and just being an a**hole.
 

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Well my number one tip would be to not say f***ed up things, lol. I know that sounds like a snarky d*ck answer but I mean it.

Sounds like she gave you everything you wanted and you repaid it by treating her like garbage and giving her nothing but the physical stuff. Not sure that's particularly "DJ"...you've clearly got good game (and you don't want to get clowned by a woman/orbited) but that's different from just treating her like s**t and insulting her.

This sounds like game over in this case, next time I'd draw a line between being a player and just being an a**hole.
Well my number one tip would be to not say f***ed up things, lol. I know that sounds like a snarky d*ck answer but I mean it.

Sounds like she gave you everything you wanted and you repaid it by treating her like garbage and giving her nothing but the physical stuff. Not sure that's particularly "DJ"...you've clearly got good game (and you don't want to get clowned by a woman/orbited) but that's different from just treating her like s**t and insulting her.

This sounds like game over in this case, next time I'd draw a line between being a player and just being an a**hole.
I would normally agree with you but follow me here.

Before I ever even banged this chicks and was just talking with her she used to tell me her ex treated her bad and she’s liked it because shes “sick like that”. Before i ever banged her on the way to my house I was bossing her around telling her to stop off at the store and get me **** and could tell she was liking it. Probably why I got in her pants. Even calling her a “hoe” didn’t seem to phase her, hell she even seemed to like it!

A normal chick would of blocked me and never spoke to me me again. She’s a very cold girl, and just not a warm person at all. She is a rare breed
Of women I have yet to come across and I don’t think it’s a borderline I’ve encountered many of those so I guess I’m just looking for answers here.

I just know she’s got huge anxiety, she like she being treated like ****, she’s freaky in bed, she likes sex but she lacks affection and i don’t get the vibe she wants a man at all....she’s just a very cold chick. **** I’ve banged strippers and escorts warmer than her.
 
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I would normally agree with you but follow me here.

Before I ever even banged this chicks and was just talking with her she used to tell me her ex treated her bad and she’s liked it because shes “sick like that”. Before i ever banged her on the way to my house I was bossing her around telling her to stop off at the store and get me **** and could tell she was liking it. Probably why I got in her pants. Even calling her a “hoe” didn’t seem to phase her, hell she even seemed to like it!

A normal chick would of blocked me and never spoke to me me again. She’s a very cold girl, and just not a warm person at all. She is a rare breed
Of women I have yet to come across and I don’t think it’s a borderline I’ve encountered many of those so I guess I’m just looking for answers here.

I just know she’s got huge anxiety, she like she being treated like ****, she’s freaky in bed, she likes sex but she lacks affection and i don’t get the vibe she wants a man at all....she’s just a very cold chick. **** I’ve banged strippers and escorts warmer than her.
So you don't feel desire eminate from her? Not sure how my dyck will get hard time after time with a bytch whose so cold.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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who cares you got sex without having to give up anything. All girls a bit crazy, maybe this one was a sociopath without emotions, especially the whole allowance thing....wtf is that ****.
 

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However the condom breaks, I *** in her and she freaks out and completely ruins the good sex by demanding I get a plan b pill for her and starts asking me when I last got tested. She panics and it of course ruins everything....
...and you are absolutely cool cuuming in a girl even you call hoe. You should have gotten her that pill in your own best interest. You should have been the one who was to worry.

Speechless I tell her she’s a worthless hoe and crazy if she thinks is I would give her any money for sex. I then proceed to text her a picture of a better looking chick I’m taking out this weekend to ma nake her jealois and we both hate eachother now. Not saying she’s not a worthless crazy ***** but she’s hot and I would like to keep her around as a ****buddy while I continue to date
No pun intended - but are you sure the Girl is the only one showing "Crazy behavior" in this case?

Why bother keeping someone around and even if just for sex, if it comes along with such drama?
 

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Before I ever even banged this chicks and was just talking with her she used to tell me her ex treated her bad and she’s liked it because shes “sick like that”. Before i ever banged her on the way to my house I was bossing her around telling her to stop off at the store and get me **** and could tell she was liking it. Probably why I got in her pants. Even calling her a “hoe” didn’t seem to phase her, hell she even seemed to like it!
Well in that case it just sounds like she's mentally ill, no healthy woman likes being outright abused all the time. There's a difference between banter, a girl asking for rough sex or something and a girl saying that her self-esteem is so f*cked that she has to be abused to be happy.

Date a nutcase and it's not going to last, you're probably just lucky she didn't go psycho on you.
 

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When a woman's guard is up about you only caring about sex, then you have to chill with them once or twice without trying to initiate sex. Every tme you hung out with her, you tried to have sex. You gotta chill sometimes, to put their mind at ease. It' not always about the present, sometimes you have to secure the future.

If she ever let's you hang out with her again. Don't initiate anything, just have a good time. Then the next time you hang out she won't be so paranoid about you just using her for sex, and you can make a move. She'll probably make the move herself if you act cool

Now if you can't stand to be around her without sex involved, then that's a whole other issue, and you should just leave her alone
 

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Why the hell would you offer to spend money on a chick just because you ate her out on a first date??

You've been on here way too long to be doing dumb stuff like this OP. You asked for all of this yourself. I think you two deserve each other.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I would normally agree with you but follow me here.

Before I ever even banged this chicks and was just talking with her she used to tell me her ex treated her bad and she’s liked it because shes “sick like that”. Before i ever banged her on the way to my house I was bossing her around telling her to stop off at the store and get me **** and could tell she was liking it. Probably why I got in her pants. Even calling her a “hoe” didn’t seem to phase her, hell she even seemed to like it!

A normal chick would of blocked me and never spoke to me me again. She’s a very cold girl, and just not a warm person at all. She is a rare breed
Of women I have yet to come across and I don’t think it’s a borderline I’ve encountered many of those so I guess I’m just looking for answers here.

I just know she’s got huge anxiety, she like she being treated like ****, she’s freaky in bed, she likes sex but she lacks affection and i don’t get the vibe she wants a man at all....she’s just a very cold chick. **** I’ve banged strippers and escorts warmer than her.
I still think they're all crazy.

I've been to the State Mental Hospital. It takes a lot to convince me that someone is "crazy."
 

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Sometimes just because you can doesn't mean you should. You made her feel like a wh0re so she decided to treat you like a john! Seems like you got a little greedy. You didn't make any deposits into her financial/mental bank accounts. She saw you for what you were.
 

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It's not you, its me (captain55)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I guess you've got it all figured out then.
I say it as someone who was constantly dating low quality women and thought the same way. Once you have four or five women in a row who are all damaged and low quality in some way, you start to see only that in women. I changed up my game and started to find better quality women. Certainly not unicorns, but definitely better quality.
 
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I say it as someone who was constantly dating low quality women and thought the same way. Once you have four or five women in a row who are all damaged and low quality in some way, you start to see only that in women. I changed up my game and started to find better quality women. Certainly not unicorns, but definitely better quality.
I think that every PERSON (male or female) gets damaged as they get years under their belt.

The girl I hung out with today was 19 years old. She wasn't damaged that I could tell, but who knows what she will be like in 15 years.
 

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I think that every PERSON (male or female) gets damaged as they get years under their belt.

The girl I hung out with today was 19 years old. She wasn't damaged that I could tell, but who knows what she will be like in 15 years.
Well if you dont play around with her she may not be.
 

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Tell her she’s the ****ed up one for wanting to be your prostitute
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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