Have you ever ruined a chick before?

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Good girl turned to bad hoe basically. And I don’t mean only with you, but after you she just turned into a monster and became worse than your normal girl even, likely because of you. How’d you do it? Was it intentional? If so, why? Do you regret it? In essence, how did you ‘ruin’/corrupt her?

Sweet & innocent >>> nasty & crazy.

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Lol I've done the opposite ("Have you ever salvation'd a girl before?"). Knew a chick who used to do drugs and stuff occasionally, she'd always switch to best behaviour around me and stopped smoking.

I think the goal should be to improve your lady's moral character in line with your own, while at the same time loosening her qualms about doing very naughty things in bed.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Lol I've done the opposite ("Have you ever salvation'd a girl before?"). Knew a chick who used to do drugs and stuff occasionally, she'd always switch to best behaviour around me and stopped smoking.

I think the goal should be to improve your lady's moral character in line with your own, while at the same time loosening her qualms about doing very naughty things in bed.

You cannot uncorrupt women. You can fix and heal men, but not women. It’s just not possible. It’ll always be underlying in the back of her mind. Women are only what you let them become. The boundaries you place on her are what she will become. If you have no boundaries.....

I read a little bit of Otto Weininger and realized it to be true.

 

[wifehunter]

Almost all my exes ended up slutty/nasty.

I don't think I did anything...they were just repressing they're nasty self.

Women are good at acting, when there is some thing they want.

Sooo, what I've learned...

Be a better actor, to catch another actor.

 

[fastlife]

No. However, when I was younger there were women who tried to make it seem that way post de facto--and I was naive enough to feel guilty/responsible for that.

But two things, three actually.

1. You've pedestalized this chick on a very incomplete set of information. Plenty of girls who seem shy & innocent aren't that way at all & currently you're projecting your desired qualities on a mostly blank canvas. Just a word of caution.
2. Women are not some delicate object you have to preserve the honor of. This is a super Blue Pill way of viewing the world. She is a girl. You aren't saving her from some special danger, you aren't some super special dude she'll never get over or some edge-lord who's gonna ruin her. Lol.
3. Be honest in your intent. Some guys, who get wet for the whole Machiavellian schtick'll disagree with me--and this might seem paradoxical given what I just wrote above--but I think it's super important to have integrity in your interactions with women. Don't make promises you can't keep; don't pretend to offer things you won't follow through on; if you have to lie to get in her pants you are doing yourself & her a great disservice (and expect drama on the back end). Be clear in your intent--you'd be suprised how many girls are just down for a strings-free romp, but they can't come out and say that until you've already lead them in that direction.

The thoughts you're having are young men thoughts. I certainly had them--they dictated several years of my life and not generally for the better! lol. But chances are, given the social conditioning you've been exposed to, you'll have to wrestle with them, even as they stand in direct contrast to what you experience in the real world.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

No. However, when I was younger there were women who tried to make it seem that way post de facto--and I was naive enough to feel guilty/responsible for that.

But two things, three actually.

1. You've pedestalized this chick on a very incomplete set of information. Plenty of girls who seem shy & innocent aren't that way at all & currently you're projecting your desired qualities on a mostly blank canvas. Just a word of caution.
2. Women are not some delicate object you have to preserve the honor of. This is a super Blue Pill way of viewing the world. She is a girl. You aren't saving her from some special danger, you aren't some super special dude she'll never get over or some edge-lord who's gonna ruin her. Lol.
3. Be honest in your intent. Some guys, who get wet for the whole Machiavellian schtick'll disagree with me--and this might seem paradoxical given what I just wrote above--but I think it's super important to have integrity in your interactions with women. Don't make promises you can't keep; don't pretend to offer things you won't follow through on; if you have to lie to get in her pants you are doing yourself & her a great disservice (and expect drama on the back end). Be clear in your intent--you'd be suprised how many girls are just down for a strings-free romp, but they can't come out and say that until you've already lead them in that direction.

The thoughts you're having are young men thoughts. I certainly had them--they dictated several years of my life and not generally for the better! lol. But chances are, given the social conditioning you've been exposed to, you'll have to wrestle with them, even as they stand in direct contrast to what you experience in the real world.

Understand that I’m not pedestalizing anything or anyone. My dignity above all. Always. The thoughts I had were not because I’m freaking out about some girl. I’m better than that. It was just looking at something I’ve never really considered much before until now, and wanted some perspective on. It’s not something anyone in the manosphere talks about ever, as they’re more into undoing what society has done unto them. I’m just curious as to this type of situation. I started over analyzing, caught myself, then stopped. There’s just questions that came up in the process. Not a big deal really.

 

[Urbanyst]

Most women are ruined by age 12.

The culture fills their brains with dog sh*t. Western women are generally horrible people and very self-centered.

Are there exceptions? Sure. But they get more rare by the minute lol.

 

[Roober]

Most of my serious relationships found their husbands after me.

My ex-wife though may be ruined. Even though I told her how miserable I was, she never felt I would leave her. Just recently, she started opening up and she's been riding the hell out of the c0ck carousel.

 

[Von]

No. However, when I was younger there were women who tried to make it seem that way post de facto--and I was naive enough to feel guilty/responsible for that.

But two things, three actually.

1. You've pedestalized this chick on a very incomplete set of information. Plenty of girls who seem shy & innocent aren't that way at all & currently you're projecting your desired qualities on a mostly blank canvas. Just a word of caution.
2. Women are not some delicate object you have to preserve the honor of. This is a super Blue Pill way of viewing the world. She is a girl. You aren't saving her from some special danger, you aren't some super special dude she'll never get over or some edge-lord who's gonna ruin her. Lol.
3. Be honest in your intent. Some guys, who get wet for the whole Machiavellian schtick'll disagree with me--and this might seem paradoxical given what I just wrote above--but I think it's super important to have integrity in your interactions with women. Don't make promises you can't keep; don't pretend to offer things you won't follow through on; if you have to lie to get in her pants you are doing yourself & her a great disservice (and expect drama on the back end). Be clear in your intent--you'd be suprised how many girls are just down for a strings-free romp, but they can't come out and say that until you've already lead them in that direction.

The thoughts you're having are young men thoughts. I certainly had them--they dictated several years of my life and not generally for the better! lol. But chances are, given the social conditioning you've been exposed to, you'll have to wrestle with them, even as they stand in direct contrast to what you experience in the real world.

It's gold.

I've got the whole " I damaged her " etc...

Cause I guess I can have narcissistic, BPD, fear of commitment etc...

Or it didn't work out the LTR etc...

Fastlife gave really short points that cover alot of stuff.

Honesty is the number 1 thing you should value in your interactions.

How many chick's thought the guy was LTR, dated him.. Only to be rejected after sex?

All chick's had to face some "judgement, violence, harassment.. Sexual or not" ... and it came just from Man like from Woman.

Even a virgin/innocent girl has some tricks in her bags.

They have an agenda, you fit or not.

However, it's the betrayal of that agenda that damages them (like my example of the guy who pretends just to sleep with her and dump her)

Any betrayal will damage you (guys here all know what I am talking about).

You will only reveal the women to herself... she was attracted to you.. For a reason.

Look at all the girls who become prostitutes or are running away by a pimp.... Most of them could have lead decent lives... but something happened that damaged them, and the damage just keep getting wider.

You can only damage someone when their heart is open... that's why so many people are afraid of commitment and keep to plate-spinning.

Always be honest.

Screen well for the right person... take your time if you must.

All girls will forgive you or learn to deal with the issues if they can trust you and you are honest with them (even the girl who virginity you took)... some might even offer you their help.

Just be good to one another.

We talk alot about the "past" but its for a good reason.. Everyone has bagages, the more bagages, the longer it takes to move them

 

[Gan]

Yup. This chick I used to see goes out every single day now to drink and turned into an alcoholic. Her life is spiralling downwards and this happened a month after she tried reconnecting with me. I ghosted her.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Yeah I ruined 2 teenage girls in my 20s, both loved me and I was in their high score list on 1st position.

Didnt do anything bad intentionally but didnt even tried too hard to make it work, I believe Im mentally insane myself if I have to be honest.

I cheated on them, disappeared for days and didnt show gratitude to their efforts, I sincerly feel like a piece of sh1t just typing it and thinking about it but again as I said Im mentally screwed myself.

I'll try to be just an assh0le in future instead of full piece of sh1t as before but guess given my age and decreased look, I hardly will have a chance to get fresh meat again.

The second one travelled to the us from europe the following summer and when she came back she was fatter, hostile and full package entitled leftist cvnt...guess I started an irreversible process that your screwed up culture accomplished.

 

[Murk]

I'll never know, girls outside my social circle I never keep in touch with once it's over.

Girls I've done things with and know to this day - either engaged, in LTR's of 2+ years or newly single.

I wouldn't want to ruin anyone, and have tried never to lead a girl on. I like to think I've lead a pious life.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

that your screwed up culture accomplished.

Sorry haha

 

[Macaframalama]

You cannot uncorrupt women. You can fix and heal men, but not women. It’s just not possible. It’ll always be underlying in the back of her mind. Women are only what you let them become. The boundaries you place on her are what she will become. If you have no boundaries.....

I read a little bit of Otto Weininger and realized it to be true.

This is everyone. Male or female. Humans period. No one can fix or heal anyone, but themselves. If you've ever tried fixing an alcoholic or drug addict, this will change your opinion very quickly.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Sorry haha

Really mate I always considered the american guys posting here to be too tragic but after seeing the result of her few months trip there, I now fully believe them.

It's like a captain american serum but other way around, instead of making you fit it makes you fat and proud of it.

Then comes a demolition man style mind rewiring into social justice feminist warrior...she was trash when she came back.

But again it was me to start the process that made her a rotten good, so guess somehow I'm trash myself lol

 

[Billtx49]

Good girl turned to bad hoe basically. And I don’t mean only with you, but after you she just turned into a monster and became worse than your normal girl even, likely because of you. How’d you do it? Was it intentional? If so, why? Do you regret it? In essence, how did you ‘ruin’/corrupt her?

Sweet & innocent >>> nasty & crazy.

Everyone lives their life with the results of their own prior choices. You can not make another person into someone they were not before meeting you. Expose her to new experiences, yes. Change her potential future behavior and ingrained personal desires, no.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

This is everyone. Male or female. Humans period. No one can fix or heal anyone, but themselves. If you've ever tried fixing an alcoholic or drug addict, this will change your opinion very quickly.

That’s a bad example simply because they have a neurological problem more so than a psychological one. Those people can only help themselves. But in terms of emotional pain, I was saying how men can still recover from it whereas women ultimately cannot unless the whole environment in which they live in changes. There needs to be a societal change in order to fix her. And even then it may not be a full true change.

Really mate I always considered the american guys posting here to be too tragic but after seeing the result of her few months trip there, I now fully believe them.

It's like a captain american serum but other way around, instead of making you fit it makes you fat and proud of it.

Then comes a demolition man style mind rewiring into social justice feminist warrior...she was trash when she came back.

But again it was me to start the process that made her a rotten good, so guess somehow I'm trash myself lol

Well thing is she would have been ****ed up regardless just because of this ****hole country anyway. They say the world was supposed to end in 2012. It did in a way, because there was a MASSIVE turnover in culture. A new era began and the old one ended. And it’s just western culture in general. The entirety of North America is western culture. And what’s the one place that dictates all new cultural movements and media? Hollywood. Located in the US. Certain cities are less about progressive movements and more like ‘let me do my damn thing to get ahead in life, and only talk to me if you are gonna help me, otherwise get lost’ like Chicago for example. But other places like Seattle or LA are horrible and all about that faggot **** that’s all too mainstream nowadays.

Everyone lives their life with the results of their own prior choices. You can not make another person into someone they were not before meeting you. Expose her to new experiences, yes. Change her potential future behavior and ingrained personal desires, no.

Not true. By showing someone a pleasure they’ve never seen before, they won’t just forget about it. You cannot just ‘unexperience’ something. Once you expose someone to something, it’s over. Once a slut, always a slut. Don’t you know that? You turn a girl into a *****, she stays that way forever. She’s not gonna just stop being one. (Note that turning her on so much to where she just wants it all the time is different than turning her into an actual slut).

When you expose someone to extremely worldly experiences, those experiences stick with them for the rest of their life and they are forever changed because of it. That’s why they say ignorance is bliss. A pornstar can’t become a nun.

 

[niceguytoalphamale]

Yeah I've been called a home wrecker a few times by girls... I took it as a compliment.. my ex turned me into a massive s.l.u.t.