"Strange" type of woman

[RichardTheFrog]

We also trade our time and attention for their ***** and other things. Trade is normal in life. Don't look at women like being "the mean creatures" cause they trade LOL

In that case, I give them less time and attention than a lot of guys.

"Hi, here's the money, let's do doggy first."

 

[Macaframalama]

See, I am torn between treating her the exact same way she treats me and between making her chase. She will chase, at least for the time being it seems so. She wrote to me three nights ago, herself, and tried to wrap up the conversation quite shortly, gave me her number and said "call me when you get to Tirana so we can go out". I prolonged the convo a couple more messages then she left it on seen and I went on about my business. Next day, meaning Monday, she writes to me after about a full day no writing, around evening and tells me "Hey, how you doing, sweety?". I let her message unopened for a couple of hours since I was busy with other things and then I respond, she leaves her message on seen again after a while and this time answers back a couple of hours later. Tuesday, technically yesterday, we had a couple of message exchanges, what I told you above.

One side of me says "fack her, don't write to her at all, let her do some chasing". On the other hand, I am curious as to how she will behave LOL

She's just playing the game and playing it better at this point, seeing she has you flustered. It's unlikely she is on a forum asking opinions on what you are thinking or advice. The end game is all that matters though. I wouldn't contact, until you are prepared to go to her city, unless she initiated messaging first. You are borderline possibly coming off as needy and beneath her. Very subtle comments, but they can add up, ie, the pvssy licking remark and trying he keep the conversation going, when she tried to end it. She needs to put up or shut up soon and come to terms. I would emphasize your dominance a little more. Keep up the playful/sexual banter, but be aware of not saying anything that will come off as weak or submissive.

 

[Macaframalama]

Is anything in life free?

Ass, cash or gas, but no one rides for free bro.

 

[lizardking82]

She's just playing the game and playing it better at this point, seeing she has you flustered. It's unlikely she is on a forum asking opinions on what you are thinking or advice. The end game is all that matters though. I wouldn't contact, until you are prepared to go to her city, unless she initiated messaging first. You are borderline possibly coming off as needy and beneath her. Very subtle comments, but they can add up, ie, the pvssy licking remark and trying he keep the conversation going, when she tried to end it. She needs to put up or shut up soon and come to terms. I would emphasize your dominance a little more. Keep up the playful/sexual banter, but be aware of not saying anything that will come off as weak or submissive.

I am treating this one purely as a testing situation, something like in an incubator. I am not need for her ***** at all although I would gladly engage myself in the whole process. Usually, if the girl plays games like leaving messages on seen and taking a long time to respond, I don't participate in what they're trynna do at all since it is not worth my time and my nerves. In the end, I am human and I cannot be completely unattached when communicating with another human being so if the other human being wants to play such games, I don't do that.

In this case, however, I find a couple of details intriguing and I am doing it more to see how she plays it and what happens rather than out of a big, pure desire for her. How it comes off to her, I don't actually give two flying facks together, but I agree with you, I also favor the "don't write to her until you invite to go out".

You mentioned "go to her city", it is not her city, it is my city, too. I live there, I was just back in my hometown in Shkoder since I had an ACL reconstruction surgery three weeks ago and needed to rest and someone to take care of me, but am heading back to the capital city this weekend. Will not meet her until next week and then only if I still feel like it. I will not try and assert dominance in a situation where I already have it

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Ass, cash or gas, but no one rides for free bro.

But unfortunately, they don't need a ride from me.

What DO they need?

And I am sitting here letting it completely fvck my self-esteem. Like...

If I have nothing to offer females, then I must be worth nothing.

If a girl thinks I'm a 4/10 in looks, then I must be a 4/10 human being.

Fact is, there are very few things they actually need. Money is one of them. What else?

 

[Macaframalama]

I am treating this one purely as a testing situation, something like in an incubator. I am not need for her ***** at all although I would gladly engage myself in the whole process. Usually, if the girl plays games like leaving messages on seen and taking a long time to respond, I don't participate in what they're trynna do at all since it is not worth my time and my nerves. In the end, I am human and I cannot be completely unattached when communicating with another human being so if the other human being wants to play such games, I don't do that.

In this case, however, I find a couple of details intriguing and I am doing it more to see how she plays it and what happens rather than out of a big, pure desire for her. How it comes off to her, I don't actually give two flying facks together, but I agree with you, I also favor the "don't write to her until you invite to go out".

You mentioned "go to her city", it is not her city, it is my city, too. I live there, I was just back in my hometown in Shkoder since I had an ACL reconstruction surgery three weeks ago and needed to rest and someone to take care of me, but am heading back to the capital city this weekend. Will not meet her until next week and then only if I still feel like it. I will not try and assert dominance in a situation where I already have it

Yea, I would be curious as to what exactly her one condition was myself. Keep us updated.

 

[lizardking82]

But unfortunately, they don't need a ride from me.

What DO they need?

And I am sitting here letting it completely fvck my self-esteem. Like...

If I have nothing to offer females, then I must be worth nothing.

If a girl thinks I'm a 4/10 in looks, then I must be a 4/10 human being.

Fact is, there are very few things they actually need. Money is one of them. What else?

They need emotion, my friend. Learn how to give it to them. Each and every one of them needs a certain emotion. Some need drama, some need caring, some need to pursuit you, some need to be pursuited. This holds true not only for women, for men, too. We are all partly or fully slaves to our subconscious and what was thrown into it during our bringing up. Learn what people need and provide them with it. Simple as that.

P. S - I, myself, am "guilty" of knowing exactly what some women needed and not providing them with it. You cannot play fiddle to their needs all the time, I guess, but you should try it.

 

[Macaframalama]

What DO they need?

Financial gratification, emotional gratification, sexual gratification. One or a combination to varying degrees. You should be trying to figure her needs and wants and what she's about from word go, what you are willing to give and what she is willing to give in return. Bartering.

And I am sitting here letting it completely fvck my self-esteem. Like...

I spent years feeling as if I'm only as good as my last lay. That is an empty glass to fill. You have to change your perception of what really makes you happy. Pulling a$$ isn't hard. Fulfillment isn't found in something that comes and goes easily. Squatting or pulling 500lbs isn't easy. Running a marathon isn't easy. Getting a bachelor degree isn't easy. Letting your guard down, letting someone in and nurturing a relationship isn't easy. Making sacrifices for others, religion or goals isn't easy. If it were, everyone would be doing it. What they are, are fulfilling and the sense of accomplishment you feel, when you achieve your goals. Part of what it means to be a "good man", being "good at being a man" and "alpha" is in what you are able to bring to the table, offer and give. You have to be able to give as well as you take, if not more. This is being a good man. Being good at being a man is figuring out who is worthy of giving to and TAKING FROM. Being a top tier or "alpha" man is the culmination of all these things. You just need to be assertive Rich. Open conversations, close numbers and take it from there.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

They need emotion, my friend. Learn how to give it to them. Each and every one of them needs a certain emotion. Some need drama, some need caring, some need to pursuit you, some need to be pursuited. This holds true not only for women, for men, too. We are all partly or fully slaves to our subconscious and what was thrown into it during our bringing up. Learn what people need and provide them with it. Simple as that.

P. S - I, myself, am "guilty" of knowing exactly what some women needed and not providing them with it. You cannot play fiddle to their needs all the time, I guess, but you should try it.

My main emotion towards them and the world in general is anger.

 

[Macaframalama]

My main emotion towards them and the world in general is anger.

A) See a shrink.
B) Find religion.
C) Date damaged women. Misery loves company.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Financial gratification, emotional gratification, sexual gratification. One or a combination to varying degrees. You should be trying to figure her needs and wants and what she's about from word go, what you are willing to give and what she is willing to give in return. Bartering.

I spent years feeling as if I'm only as good as my last lay. That is an empty glass to fill. You have to change your perception of what really makes you happy. Pulling a$$ isn't hard. Fulfillment isn't found in something that comes and goes easily. Squatting or pulling 500lbs isn't easy. Running a marathon isn't easy. Getting a bachelor degree isn't easy. Letting your guard down, letting someone in and nurturing a relationship isn't easy. Making sacrifices for others, religion or goals isn't easy. If it were, everyone would be doing it. What they are, are fulfilling and the sense of accomplishment you feel, when you achieve your goals. Part of what it means to be a "good man", being "good at being a man" and "alpha" is in what you are able to bring to the table, offer and give. You have to be able to give as well as you take, if not more. This is being a good man. Being good at being a man is figuring out who is worthy of giving to and TAKING FROM. Being a top tier or "alpha" man is the culmination of all these things. You just need to be assertive Rich. Open conversations, close numbers and take it from there.

Getting laid (for free) is VERY HARD for me.

Seemingly impossible.

Although I haven't gone out in a while. I'm on hiatus for another 5 weeks while I'm in bandages.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

A) See a shrink.
B) Find religion.
C) Date damaged women. Misery loves company.

I've seen all the shrinks in the world. I've seen the ins and outs of the mental health system, both on the civil and criminal side.

I don't believe in religion. I'm an atheist. I actually wrote a book about it while locked up that I put on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/All-Religions-Are-False-Schizophrenic-ebook/dp/B00ZKKZ8UW

Damaged women? Isn't that all of them?

 

[AJ84]

See, I am torn between treating her the exact same way she treats me and between making her chase. She will chase, at least for the time being it seems so. She wrote to me three nights ago, herself, and tried to wrap up the conversation quite shortly, gave me her number and said "call me when you get to Tirana so we can go out". I prolonged the convo a couple more messages then she left it on seen and I went on about my business. Next day, meaning Monday, she writes to me after about a full day no writing, around evening and tells me "Hey, how you doing, sweety?". I let her message unopened for a couple of hours since I was busy with other things and then I respond, she leaves her message on seen again after a while and this time answers back a couple of hours later. Tuesday, technically yesterday, we had a couple of message exchanges, what I told you above.

One side of me says "fack her, don't write to her at all, let her do some chasing". On the other hand, I am curious as to how she will behave LOL

She dangled a carrot with sexting and is now backtracking with innocent flirting. Classic female game strategy and I'm saying that as a female. Maybe she wants a proper date from you but she's going about it all wrong.

If you have other things going on in your life, which you seem to, but are interested in sex with her I guess the question is how much time do you want to dedicate to this game before you move on, if she's all talk no action.

 

[Spaz]

They need emotion, my friend. Learn how to give it to them. Each and every one of them needs a certain emotion. Some need drama, some need caring, some need to pursuit you, some need to be pursuited. This holds true not only for women, for men, too. We are all partly or fully slaves to our subconscious and what was thrown into it during our bringing up. Learn what people need and provide them with it. Simple as that.

P. S - I, myself, am "guilty" of knowing exactly what some women needed and not providing them with it. You cannot play fiddle to their needs all the time, I guess, but you should try it.

This one is good

 

[dude99]

See, I am torn between treating her the exact same way she treats me and between making her chase. She will chase, at least for the time being it seems so. She wrote to me three nights ago, herself, and tried to wrap up the conversation quite shortly, gave me her number and said "call me when you get to Tirana so we can go out". I prolonged the convo a couple more messages then she left it on seen and I went on about my business. Next day, meaning Monday, she writes to me after about a full day no writing, around evening and tells me "Hey, how you doing, sweety?". I let her message unopened for a couple of hours since I was busy with other things and then I respond, she leaves her message on seen again after a while and this time answers back a couple of hours later. Tuesday, technically yesterday, we had a couple of message exchanges, what I told you above.

One side of me says "fack her, don't write to her at all, let her do some chasing". On the other hand, I am curious as to how she will behave LOL

Start focusing on other women, withdraw 95 % of all attention you have been giving her. Dont be so available to her.

Treat her like your 11th or 12th priority on your to 10 list.

 

[lizardking82]

Start focusing on other women, withdraw 95 % of all attention you have been giving her. Dont be so available to her.

Treat her like your 11th or 12th priority on your to 10 list.

Will do, Sir. She doesn't deserve it anyways LOL