Girls that lost their father early

[antr]

Anyone dated a chick whos father passed early (around when they were 10-12 years old)?

With this girl I'm dating I noticed she lacks a bit of feminity and doesnt really know how to display physical affection.

 

[ohrein]

Yeah they tend to be very aloof. I'm speculating here but I imagine a lack of bonding with a male figure has deprived them of the skill and comfort to bond with men. Always exceptions of course but the last woman I chased whose dad died young had the thickest walls I've ever experienced with a woman.

 

[El Payaso]

Many of them end up with daddy issues.

Pretty much every girl I've ever dated has come from a messed up home.

One of them had a father who was a medical doctor. He had to flee the country for peddling prescription drugs on the side.

Another one had a father who was a bank robber and ended up doing hard time. We had sex on the first date and she offered me anal. Go figure....

One had a father who abused her and her siblings after their mother passed away.

One had a dad who was a heroin drug dealer back in their old country. He got sent to jail and the mom took the kids and fled to America. She's never seen her dad since then.

I swore to start making hard filters and any woman I date from now on most come from a good two parent household and a stable home.

Women who had a good father and mother figure in their lives are often better than women who grew up in a single parent household.

The woman I'm dating right now is a doctor and has both parents in her life. I can see a vast difference between her and other women I've dated. She still has her faults like other women but they're not as extreme as the other women from broken homes I dated.

 

[sosousage]

one girl without father called me daddy

 

[derby1]

OP tread carefully, she will have daddy issues as @El Payaso has stated

start getting overly obsessed with you very FAST,

Victim issues... everything is everyone elses fault

Selfish everything is figured so it suits them

Dont really care about you they care about the feelings you give them ie the Man they never had

 

[RangerMIke]

I've never really noticed any difference.

However, in my experience the absence of a father has a significantly detrimental impact on boys raised by women only. They are the most fvcked up IMO, they have a god awful time dating, and/or find themselves in trouble more often. YOu want to see how the absence of men impacts a community...All you have to do is look at American inner cities and see what percentage of men in prison were raised by single moms.

Women raised without a father isn't that much of a factor in and of itself. However, how the MOTHER behaves in the absence of a father DOES impact chicks. If her mom is a cvm burping hoe with a string of dudes... the chick raised like this will have a VERY hard time with trust and binding with a particular man.

 

[Spaz]

I've never really noticed any difference.

However, in my experience the absence of a father has a significantly detrimental impact on boys raised by women only. They are the most fvcked up IMO, they have a god awful time dating, and/or find themselves in trouble more often. YOu want to see how the absence of men impacts a community...All you have to do is look at American inner cities and see what percentage of men in prison were raised by single moms.

Women raised without a father isn't that much of a factor in and of itself. However, how the MOTHER behaves in the absence of a father DOES impact chicks. If her mom is a cvm burping hoe with a string of dudes... the chick raised like this will have a VERY hard time with trust and binding with a particular man.

Totally agree.

 

[Murk]

I was raised by a single mother who passed away 2 years ago, I thrive in dating, business, social settings, the lot.

I believe any arrangement growing up where you do not have 2 loving parents is going to be detrimental to a child's growth, regardless of male or female or who is missing out of mum or dad. It's a human nature and nurture situation rather than a gender one. But that's never to say someone can't achieve and be successful regardless of upbringing. A hard life can and does build character, it makes you fearless and driven, fvck you both.

 

[AJ84]

I was raised by a single mother who passed away 2 years ago, I thrive in dating, business, social settings, the lot.

I believe any arrangement growing up where you do not have 2 loving parents is going to be detrimental to a child's growth, regardless of male or female or who is missing out of mum or dad. It's a human nature and nurture situation rather than a gender one. But that's never to say someone can't achieve and be successful regardless of upbringing. A hard life can and does build character, it makes you fearless and driven, fvck you both.

I agree it can build character and resilience.

I know lots of people raised by single parents who are successful and well rounded people. I also know people raised in two parent families who are complete trainwrecks.

Two horrible parents are always much worse than one good parent. It's the quality of the parenting, not the number of parents, that really counts.

I think it's dumb to assume a girl is going to be trouble because she was raised by one parent, or her father died before age 10 or some bs, before even getting to know her first. Unless the guy has oodles of options for women to date, it would be stupid to immediately write a new girl off based on some crap he read online.

 

[Spaz]

A woman has advantages.

A female chromosomes merges and has been going on since time immemorial. So a female has advantages of her combined ancestral DNA.

On an instinctive level a female "knows" how to be a female.

On the other hand;

The male Y chromosome doesn't merge, it remains the same and even perhaps "diluted" due to environmental exposure etc.
As such a boy growing up will need a man to mentor him into a man.

That is a fact.

 

[sazc]

Simple minds

 

[Spaz]

As far as men going to jail, if an alpha father pumps n dumps a woman and leaves behind a kid, there’s a good chance that kid ain’t gonna be a pansy and will often find himself in trouble

A baby boy ONLY inherits the physical acpects of his father, good chance to have his voice, face or body type and maybe some sort of predisposed medical conditions. That's where it stops.

It doesn't matter if his father is an Alpha, Beta or Omega of some Homo/Tranny...doesn't matter 1 single bit.

What matters is which man raised him up, took him under his wings. Teaches him what's it like to be a man.

An example;
Kids learning to ride a bycicle.

Kids fall and injures himself.

Mother reaction; Runs to kid and smoother him affectionately and kid with tears in his eyes looks up at mommy with love.

Father's reaction; Smile as kid falls down and kid seeing that father is observing him rises up immediately to ride his bycicle and sees his dad grinning widely and giving him the thumbs up.
Now kid is ecstatic and grinning with determination to carry on riding.

Oh yeah kid totally forgot his scraped bleeding knees.

Now who do you think learns to ride the bycicle faster?

 

[Spaz]

You mean in a same household with 5 male kids they r all the same just because they have the same dad?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Let’s go ahead and make rash generalizations! Yaaaaayyyy!!!!

Y’all some seriously dumb mtfkrs. It can make her better, or worse, or make no difference. My parents raised me to be a *****. And for a while there I was. But I grew out of it and eventually just rebelled into becoming a man. With the how I was raised, I should not be where I’m at today. But I eventually hardened up like no other.

A lot of times, it comes just from the person. How someone is can come just from who they are regardless of upbringing. Some people come from great families and serve to die. Others were born into ****ty ones and have had to join gangs and kill people to get to school, get a scholarship, and get the hell out. They’re rare, but they’re out there. Plus, it’s the QUALITY of parenting, not how many. The greatest slayers I’ve ever seen were actually raised by their mother’s. I think it’s because they’ve learned early on that they’re the man of the family. There’s also some super wimpy guys who were raised by single moms too the wrong way.

There’s too many variables out there to really generalize so much. Those of you who make such generalizations likely don’t have any inner strength of your own and are pretty much solely the result of your environment rather than because of anything coming from just you. Once you’ve broken free from all of that, you would understand what I’m talking about.

 

[051AV]

I've noticed women that have come from healthy family lives with a good father and mother they have less issues, the ones that come from a family where the father is absent or he wasn't a huge presence in her life, a father was domineering I find she has issues. After being with a woman (BPD) where she hates her father and her family life isn't healthy she has some serious issues. Now when I encounter women I'm interested in I start finding out what her family life if it sounds questionable I will back off and not pursue any more interest in the woman. One woman I was chatting up I was spotting issues with her, started looking at her family life, raised by her mother, no real father figure in her life, bingo that's why I seen the issues in her.

 

[Spaz]

Ain't no way my mother can raise me to be a man.

How can she train me to be a man when she have not lived as a man?
Oh yes she has an idea. And it revolves around what a man can do for her - thats her idea of what a man is; love her tenderly, politely, treat woman respectfully, work hard for the family, bring food for the table etc etc.

What I actually NEEDED to learn from my mother is love and being more empathetic, when I was 0-7 years old. Hell yes, that's important stuff too.

What I NEEDED to learn from my dad or any other male role model willing to mentor me was a whole lot more that what a woman could ever possibly teach me.

And when I mean a man, I mean a masculine man and not some whipped downtrodden shape of a man.

If u think you don't need nor require another man/father figure to mentor you then you'll be floundering aimlessly until you reach the emptiness - zeroed out.

Even at this age which I am 46, I still go back to my elders to reaffirm my set of principles when I am conflicted or hit a stumbling block.

As a young boy I learned from what my father and other male relatives could teach me.

As I grew up I learned from other older males who were superior and more successful then me. I was lucky that some took me under their wings.

How I ended up here was also because a few months ago my 69 yrs old former boss told me this;

Spaz, there's a correlation between success in business/life and being a man who is successful with any woman.

So here I am. Learning, reading, and gaining an understanding from those who has experienced it. In a way many of you here r mentoring me.

 

[wolf]

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/the-most-toxic-damaging-type-of-woman-of-them-all.239396/

I saved this as a bookmark when you first posted it and I read it every once in a while. Best Thread on Sosuave IMO! Should be made a Sticky.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Even at this age which I am 46, I still go back to my elders to reaffirm my set of principles when I am conflicted or hit a stumbling block.

At 46, you have to be able to make your own decisions and have strong enough principles to guide you by then. You shouldn’t seek reaffirmations from others because you should already be sure of yourself enough to know that you’re following the right path. You’re at least 20 years behind on that.

 

[ohrein]

I've never really noticed any difference.

However, in my experience the absence of a father has a significantly detrimental impact on boys raised by women only. They are the most fvcked up IMO, they have a god awful time dating, and/or find themselves in trouble more often.

This was me and still is my brother. I never really unpacked why but I was pretty messed up until mid twenties until I really started to work on myself properly. I imagine boys with weak fathers have the same impact, I don't think they'd need to be absent. Not to mention the fact masculinity is so under attack in modern society that it's just going to be worse for boys in general. We all have to play a part in fixing that **** where we can. I take a lot of young men "under my wing" when I can. Just giving them some basic advice and telling them it's okay to be a man is new to them. Sad state of affairs out there at the moment.

 

[Spaz]

At 46, you have to be able to make your own decisions and have strong enough principles to guide you by then. You shouldn’t seek reaffirmations from others because you should already be sure of yourself enough to know that you’re following the right path. You’re at least 20 years behind on that.

You mean principles that stays the same like in a time capsule? How does that serve me or even anyone?

Even if I'm 100, a 1,000 or 10,000 years old I'll still need to improve myself.

I guess i need to elaborate further;

Principle(way of thinking) - methodology (way of doing things) = Results

It's pretty normal for a person when they have failed to achieved their desired result they keep on working on their methodologies.
Sometimes it works after going through many trails and errors.

And when is doesn't, you will need to have a look at your principles that might have relevance for the past 10 or 20 years ago which might not be applicable now.

Does this make sense now?