guru1000
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Sharp shirt Richard. Now get it tailored to appear fitted around back and waist. Not tight. Not loose. Fitted.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
A sales background
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
Pareto Principle, otherwise known as the 80-20 rule, says that in any system, eighty percent of the work is due to twenty percent of the elements.
In sales, it means that 80 percent of the total sales will be made by top 20% of salespeople.
And within that top 20, there's another 20-80 split.
Same with guys and girls.
Top percent get most of the women.
20% of 20% is 4%.
So the top 4% of any system (sales people or seducers) will generally be getting 64% (80 percent of the 80 percent) of all the sales or women.
But my overall point was that in any given market and any given product, there will be the top 4% doing most of the work.
The difference between those top 4% and the bottom 80% is NOT attributed to product or market. Only sales skills.
If you want consistent "access" to the majority (64%) of women (and not the bottom of the barrel) you've got to be in the top 4%.
This is why is sucks to be beta.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
I definitely concur. You look like you're making one of those farewell youtube videos before going on a killing spree...
RichardTheFrog
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Okay. Not sure if the other 2 I bought were as good.
RichardTheFrog
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Have you ever noticed that all of your advice sucks, nobody asked for it, and you're a little kid who DOESN'T fvck hot girls?
I'm not sure who is worse, you or @deesade
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
No, I, uh, never noticed that....
Well, when it comes to in field advice, (compared to say, infield advice which you might find on a baseball forum) based on real world results and true game (cold approach, language and behavior to create attraction), I'd say @deesade would be the guy to listen to.
RichardTheFrog
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taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
Don't knock it till you've tried it...(might loosen you up a bit, tone down some of that serial killer vibe...)
Glassguy
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Good points. Overselling yourself is a deal breaker in both the sales and dating world.
Logic- that is what most men who excell in sales and dating have a lot of.
Women and a lot of buyers (especially the spontaneous buyers) are emotional. Applying good logic to their emotions creates an easy sale.
Von
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Every buying décision is emotinal.
Logic is just the rationalisation of emotions.
Good sellers are good and above average (Pareto 20% top)
Sales taught me : To handle rejection, rebound, handle sh!t test and initial rejection (easier to sell to someone who says : No (but maintain an opening), than someone who says Yesyes yes so easily (like casual), it allowed me to notice signals better, it also taught me you cant win all battles all the time but you can win the war (improving business). It also showed me the importance of social group/networking. It solidify me, since from the start people get on the défensive when they see à "salesmans". It also remind me of the importance of humour, empathy, willpower
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Glassguy
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The sale doesnt start until the potential customer says no.
The "game" doesnt start until the chick either plays hard to get or doesn't lay down like a rug on the first attempt on her.
I will say that the older I get, the less game I use. These chicks can either make it easy and jump onboard or take their shyte down the road. My time and energy is better spent elsewhere if they don't make it easy.
Not necessarily .....when you cold door knock many times you are trying to cram a very expensive item down someones throat who cannot afford it..and is not even in the market for what you are trying to sell them...