List the excuses men use to dumpster dive on OLD

[Sub]

"I'm a busy man with no time to go out and meet people" - If you're that busy you wouldn't have time to meet women from OLD either.

"The dating landscape has changed bro! Get with the times!" - Yes the more the dating landscape has changed the more it stays the same, You still have to go out and meet people so why not meet better quality people not needing to use OLD? Or would you prefer the dating landscape to change to the point where everyone gets even lazier and face time dates instead?

"The women that use OLD are exactly the same as women you meet out" - Yes. If you spend your life hanging out in shyt dive places meeting low quality skanks and your warped world view is that all women are fixtures in shyt holes.

"There are high quality women using OLD with PhDs etc. You just don't get them" - And there are high quality women that don't need to use OLD because they aren't screwed up and belong to social circles where they weren't forced to have to resort to OLD. If a woman is using OLD that's your first glaring red flag. Especially if she's good looking with a PhD.

"I just want to get laid!" - If you need to use OLD to get laid then it's pretty telling that your success in getting laid not using OLD is slacking.

"It's just an extra tool to meet women" - Yes but if it becomes your "go to" crutch for easy sex then don't talk about seeking "high value" while dumpster diving and using a tool known for its toxic women.

"All women use OLD anyway!" No. Not all women use OLD or ever needed to. If you attempt to lump any site as "OLD" you're reaching hard. Might as well try to "justify" that type of reach in saying any woman that's ever used the internet is "online dating".

 

[Desdinova]

This is the problem... The guys who are constantly using online dating don't have an opportunity to talk to the women who don't use online dating. They haven't learned that many women will NOT resort to online dating, and haven't heard any of their reasons for it:

- They would prefer to meet their "soulmate" in real life.
- They have heard the horror stories and won't bother trying it.
- They don't feel like they're that desperate.
- They did it and they quit because there's too many 5hitty men on it.

This is one of the few reasons why you can't resort to it as your only option. You need to get out there and meet the women who will not use it. Plus, it will enhance your ability to interact with people.

 

[sosousage]

I quite agree despite the fact I use mainly OLD to get chicks.

What I hate about it is that how much time it wastes when u PM chicks and 90% of them doesnt reply.

What I love about it is that it's very convenient and I dont need to be 100% well dressed and have well hair cut if I want to flirt or ensure future dates.

I wouldnt say it SAVES time, because it STEALS it due to the amount of woman that bother swipping right but dont bother talking nor dating (90%), or these that will call you a dogsh*t when you throw a small joke.

but still the fact I dont need to go to hairdresser etc is good i eat pizza, have break in job or play games meanwhile swipping on old

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

If there's one thing I've noticed about current Western human populations, it is that they are inherently lazy in many respects. Call it conditioning, or socialisation (or lack thereof), or whatever; what OLD provides for men, women and whomever / whatever else, is a path of least resistance.

OLD is what it is. It's commercialisation of romance. Like being in a casino, the primary initiative is for the company to make money; success of paying customers is really inconsequential or, in fact, detrimental to the business plan.

So, we have de-socialised, generally lazy and desperate people putting all faith in a system that is designed, at least in part, to promote their failure.

Savvy men (and women) can do very well online. And clearly do. And not to say that quality can't be found online. I had a couple of quality LTRs (6 months apiece). However, the remainder of my online encounters have been quite forgettable, generally. I have had many more and longer lasting relationships with women met in the real world. And these have been with women who will never need to use OLD.

My female friend confides in me about her OLD experiences, and to be fair, she sees many of the same issues that I see men do - flaky behaviour, weird behaviour, transient interest levels, low quality. She has pretty much become reliant on it to the point where she doesn't even attempt to meet others IRL. There was a time where she was going on a couple of dates per week, every week. Nowadays, she's so disenfranchised, so reliant on the ease of meeting people online, she's becoming incapable of meeting people without it. I have suggested hooking her up with my colleague (also heavily reliant); and you should see the abject fear on their faces when I suggest they meet.

And this is the problem with the path of least resistance; the desire for success does not diminish, but the means to realise that success (social skill) does.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Women online are so demanding nowadays that cold approaching despite the low percentage of success is still a safer bet.

If we consider what you need to get attention online (being a top 10% in look) and the chance of being fooled from an ugly or a fatty, the cost benefit ratio for the average man says to take chances IRL.

None of my friends manage to date a decent looking sane minded girl out of tinder and most of them are more goodlooking than me, so I decided to pass.

 

[marmel75]

Its an option just like any other option. The posters who are so against OLD on here are usually the ones who dont understand that there are a different set of rules for OLD than normal dating and as a result do very poorly at it.

Since they would prefer not to adapt they bad mouth it because they have very low success rates.

Basically it falls into the category of:
"I suck at this and because I am so awesome and egomaniacal that I cannot accept that others might be better at this than me, It has to suck too."

 

[Sub]

Its an option just like any other option. The posters who are so against OLD on here are usually the ones who dont understand that there are a different set of rules for OLD than normal dating and as a result do very poorly at it.

Since they would prefer not to adapt they bad mouth it because they have very low success rates.

Basically it falls into the category of:
"I suck at this and because I am so awesome and egomaniacal that I cannot accept that others might be better at this than me, It has to suck too."

I understand there are different rules to OLD and everyday dating. I bolded your own admitting OLD isn't normal dating. In my experience 99% of the chicks I spoke to had serious issues. Amazing the shyt they'll tell you when they feel comfortable talking to you. As in is this real life?! To the point I never bothered meeting them. that's how bad it was. Didn't matter how they looked. One nut and lowlife after the next.. Not wasting my time on whack-a-doos, degenerates, etc. I'd rather mow the lawn. Did my bid on there. Yeah got tons of numbers ,emails etc. Got bored with it. Proved to myself chicks that use OLD are on there for a reason and it's not good.

If dudes want to try it I say go for it. As for myself? Been there. Done that. I'll pass.

 

[marmel75]

I understand there are different rules to OLD and everyday dating. I bolded your own admitting OLD isn't normal dating. In my experience 99% of the chicks I spoke to had serious issues. Amazing the shyt they'll tell you when they feel comfortable talking to you. As in is this real life?! To the point I never bothered meeting them. that's how bad it was. Didn't matter how they looked. One nut and lowlife after the next.. Not wasting my time on whack-a-doos, degenerates, etc. I'd rather mow the lawn. Did my bid on there. Yeah got tons of numbers ,emails etc. Got bored with it. Proved to myself chicks that use OLD are on there for a reason and it's not good.

If dudes want to try it I say go for it. As for myself? Been there. Done that. I'll pass.

I'd counter this by saying what percentage of women HAVEN'T done online dating at some point? 10%? 15%? Doubt its much higher than that if not lower.

So by definition you've dated the same chicks but instead of you meeting them online, you've met them while out somewhere. And that is supposed to make them less crazy, nutty, etc how exactly?

 

[user43770]

Who banned one of our best posters?

 

[Red Legg]

As someone who cold approaches regularly( because I am retired) and someone who has been online dating for well over a decade. I can tell you that OLD is just a cross section of general women in society,to say you meet better women cold approaching in public as opposed to OLD is total horsesh!t.I once cold approached a woman who turned me down in public,two months later she matched with me on Tinder....

 

[marmel75]

As someone who cold approaches regularly( because I am retired) and someone who has been online dating for well over a decade. I can tell you that OLD is just a cross section of general women in society,to say you meet better women cold approaching in public as opposed to OLD is total horsesh!t.I once cold approached a woman who turned me down in public,two months later she matched with me on Tinder....

I mean it has to be considering how many women have tried OLD at one time or another...

Unless OP is dating technology less women, they are the same women he would meet online. Now if he is saying that he is ATTRACTING nut jobs online then that might be a conversation worth having. But to say he is somehow meeting different women when they are likely also online is just silliness.

 

[skinnyguy]

The guys who say they get laid a lot online have a 1% success rate and don’t have much to do other than send messages during the day. They are also fvcking HB 5 and under, but hey they won’t tell you that.

 

[marmel75]

The guys who say they get laid a lot online have a 1% success rate and don’t have much to do other than send messages during the day. They are also fvcking HB 5 and under, but hey they won’t tell you that.

Sure...another bitter poster who is angry they can't get any action online so they make up nosense to anyone who will listen.

 

[bigdave17]

you guys who say "just do it in real life" must be the ones who have no standards or you live in the middle of Manhattan or something

It's not that easy to find cute, fit, no kids, professional mid to late 20s women where I live (in suburbs) especially as I only really like medium to dark skinned women. At least with online dating, I can filter out the nonsense

 

[Glassguy]

Both OLD and real life approaches have pros and cons.

I think the only negative are the men who put all of their eggs in the OLD basket.

Used correctly, you can pick up women with any platform.

 

[sosousage]

Sure...another bitter poster who is angry they can't get any action online so they make up nosense to anyone who will listen.

its depends on application, city, country, age, photos, etc

more mature men might be doign well on OLD because the 30+ woman there are pretty straight forward. you get matched. you make fun while chatting. shes literally waiting till you ask her on date (probably normal date not banging)

I often match with women 10/15 years older than me (lol ) and maybe they are not the highest quality in appearance but I dont find anything wrong about their personalities and as I said they are very serious and exactly know why they installed the app. I have very high response rate from older chicks on old that get matched with me (about 80% reply rate from older chicks, and they all continue talking)

age 18-25 that is found online is so broken that I cry sometimes. its said that they attention wh*re or look for 10/10 while being 2/10 (however it still doesnt make sense why would they sit on these apps). In this age range I always get less than 10% reply rate and less than 1% dates.

I always add more eager chicks to my database on snapchat (one sent me boobs pics with her whole body naked couple hours before she was complaining how I mentioned sex. I told her she needs to see psychologist if she gets this mad when someone says "sex" and thats what she sent me couple hours later lol then she said women like to test ground a lot.)



recently I talked to a girl that only wants to SMASH so I will meet her soon I guess its weird because 99% of women there say they want relationships. Thats why i always say im into long term relationships but this one wanted to gave up on me because of this you never know.




as for quality Im sure theres more introverted and boring men on online pickup than on live pickup and women online have sick requirements + are flaky + dont respect you + most of them sit on the app for no reason, they dont want to date


But that doesnt mean you should say "oh they meet on old, jeez these loosers" In the future there will be only more and more OLD. these women that are sitting on snapchat and social media nonstop will have their children do it even more

 

[skinnyguy]

Sure...another bitter poster who is angry they can't get any action online so they make up nosense to anyone who will listen.

My argument isn’t that people can’t get laid online. I’m saying that a lot of losers like yourself use it because of their inability to meet women in real life. They dumpster dive and then claim they are successful when they bang a fat single mom

 

[marmel75]

My argument isn’t that people can’t get laid online. I’m saying that a lot of losers like yourself use it because of their inability to meet women in real life. They dumpster dive and then claim they are successful when they bang a fat single mom

Right. So when you meet a chick "in real life" who is also online, since 90% of women use online dating to some degree or another, these chicks somehow go from "fat single mom" to HB9? They somehow go from dumpster to pedestal in your mind?

It doesn't even make any sense. Virtually every women every guy has dated is using or has used online dating. So by your definition every woman you meet is "dumpster" material or "fat single mom"?

The stupidity of this forum is at an all time high. SMFH.

 

[skinnyguy]

Right. So when you meet a chick "in real life" who is also online, since 90% of women use online dating to some degree or another, these chicks somehow go from "fat single mom" to HB9? They somehow go from dumpster to pedestal in your mind?

It doesn't even make any sense. Virtually every women every guy has dated is using or has used online dating. So by your definition every woman you meet is "dumpster" material or "fat single mom"?

The stupidity of this forum is at an all time high. SMFH.

I see tons of HB9 at the club..... don’t see them online. The main point is that an HB5 will not get attention in real life but online she will get 250 messages per day. You’re just stroking her ego and lowering your standards if you reach out online (that’s why they use OLD).

The exception might be Tinder but most women just use it for attention.

 

[sosousage]

I see tons of HB9 at the club..... don’t see them online. The main point is that an HB5 will not get attention in real life but online she will get 250 messages per day. You’re just stroking her ego and lowering your standards if you reach out online (that’s why they use OLD).

The exception might be Tinder but most women just use it for attention.

But shouldnt they be banned for that? why they take space on OLD and waste men's time?

and the best: how to counter this counterproductive behavior? old would be heaven if not these girls