"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Moment of clarity about looks

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I just had this moment of clarity about how girls view looks on guys. It happened because I was on Badoo and it shows other guys profiles on the top.

I think that there are probably a small percentage of guys who are either extremely attractive or extremely ugly, but the vast majority of guys fall into the category of "good enough" as long as they possess the other qualities they're looking for.

Confidence, height, muscles, maybe clothes. Maybe money but that would only make up for lacking in something else. Smile is important.

But you can take the same guy and put him in a different place in the world and they would be completely different in girls eyes.

Is George Clooney attractive? Only because he's a famous actor. If he was your plumber, nobody would give a fvck about him. Certainly wouldn't call him sexiest man alive.

The same person could be entirely different in terms of attractiveness depending on if he's social, has lots of friends, has dated hot girls before, etc. It's not all about looks but just the persona that they give off.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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My ex gf is probably 8/10 looks. I'm probably about the same; maybe 9 on a good day. Her new bf is probably a 6, squat, balding, beaver looking fella. Go figure.

Best fix up mate. Enough of this bs. Keep it up and I'll be recommending a ban for you, sunshine.
 
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My ex gf is probably 8/10 looks. I'm probably about the same; maybe 9 on a good day. Her new bf is probably a 6, squat, balding, beaver looking fella. Go figure.

Best fix up mate. Enough of this bs. Keep it up and I'll be recommending a ban for you, sunshine.
Don't call me sunshine.

Plus, your post makes no sense since you said her new boyfriend is a 6.
 

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Confidence, height, muscles, maybe clothes. Maybe money but that would only make up for lacking in something else.
I know they locked your other thread for suggesting money could attract women, but I think the idea that a man being financially successful and powerful is not an attraction factor is just ridiculous. The thing is with men, it's usually a combination of things that allow them to attract women.

I think you're right about the way women view looks, though. Basically, women have looks, and men do. Men are about action, it's about their personality, and who they are that make them attractive. Most guys fall toward the middle on the attraction scale. The extremely attractive Ryan Gosling types are very rare. The ugly guys aren't quite as rare, but definitely a minority.
 
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I know they locked your other thread for suggesting money could attract women, but I think the idea that a man being financially successful and powerful is not an attraction factor is just ridiculous. The thing is with men, it's usually a combination of things that allow them to attract women.

I think you're right about the way women view looks, though. Basically, women have looks, and men do. Men are about action, it's about their personality, and who they are that make them attractive. Most guys fall toward the middle on the attraction scale. The extremely attractive Ryan Gosling types are very rare. The ugly guys aren't quite as rare, but definitely a minority.
But Ryan Gosling wouldn't be as attractive if he was a plumber. It's not just his looks. It's his fame.

Yea anyone who doesn't think money can attract females is stupid.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Don't call me sunshine.

Plus, your post makes no sense since you said her new boyfriend is a 6.
It makes perfect sense. You bang on about looks all the time. You're either ignorant, autistic or you're a troll. Time to buckle up or fck off sunshine. I have one of the longest fuses on this forum, but you're starting to p!as even me off now.

Fix up, or jog on, son.
 

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I agree what people deem good looking in Hollywood is laughable to me. I've seen way prettier women then j.lo at the puerto rican parade on average. And Pitt and Clooney are not that great looking either. People are just brainwashed, like that Jeremy Meeks dude, dude is hideous but took 1 good picture and has blue eyes....hmmmm
 
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It makes perfect sense. You bang on about looks all the time. You're either ignorant, autistic or you're a troll. Time to buckle up or fck off sunshine. I have one of the longest fuses on this forum, but you're starting to p!as even me off now.

Fix up, or jog on, son.
What you said contradicted yourself.

And nobody cares about your fuse, cupcake.
 

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What you said contradicted yourself.

And nobody cares about your fuse, cupcake.
Even fewer people than nobody care about your 'looks' issues sunshine. You've had plenty of warnings, and after 2000 posts in six months, you've added precisely zero value to this group.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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But I do the same, I whine sometimes, but one of the steps to recovery is not to whine.
The OP has had many whining threads, but I don't believe this is one of them.
 

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The OP has had many whining threads, but I don't believe this is one of them.
Too bad the boy cried wolf once too many times.
 

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This thread isn't whiney at all. Actually it seems kind of positive.
Yeah, the thread title talks about a moment of clarity, maybe we're seeing some growth here. I thought he made a good observation.

I hope the OP does get over his body dysmorphic disorder (if it's that severe). But I also know that such self esteem issues can be deep seated and very difficult to get over. I also think that SoSuave can actually be discouraging at times for some, because many posters like to talk about the results they get based on their looks. You shouldn't compare yourself with others, but that can be difficult also.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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