If I'm high value.. Why should i?

[cola]

Is that supposed to impress? Whats wrong with you dawg. Why do you feel the need to break it down to violence to get some sort of ego trip or what? It doesnt justify you thinking you some special snowflake.

I'd rather think too highly of myself than not highly enough.

 

[Julian]

I'd rather think too highly of myself than not highly enough.

Wouldnt you rather others think highly of you as well based on your character and actions?

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

As @da dynamically said "The purpose of self improvement self-aggrandization in this new game is just to better serve out-narcissize women"

Corrected.

 

[Tenacity]

Put it this way. Sure Mark Zuckerberg has a fat wallet, but his wife is pretty ugly and you can see how she wears the pants in the relationship just by viewing pictures of them.

There is absolutely no way in the world you can tell the dynamics of a relationship by looking at random pictures.

But someone like him is 'higher value' than you, me, and cola who likely would make his wife do dirtier things with us than he ever could had we been in a relationship with her (not that we'd even want one with her to begin with, but just as an example).

Strip away everything one has and owns. Who is the stronger man (both physically and mentally)? Likely us 3 are over him.

See this is one of the reasons Men collectively today have fallen, look at the mentality of Men today. You guys hold "getting pvssy" and "getting some wh0re to do dirty things with you" as some accomplishment.....over.....being one of the richest, most powerful, most influential people in the history of the United States.

Mark Zuckerberg has more social proof, attraction, etc., in his left pinky toe than any one on this board combined will ever have X 10. Why did he choose the woman he chose? It could have been for a variety of reasons, it could be that she supports him in other ways that he didn't feel the better looking girls were doing at the time.

But this entire notion that because you can get a chick to do "dirty things with you" makes you some accomplished "real man" over a person who is a REAL accomplished MAN with more power than probably most people in Congress.......is laughable, cartoonish, and shows why Men collectively have fallen as nobody is focused on GAINING REAL POWER anymore. Everybody just wants pseudo-power because that's much easier to obtain.

Sure he works hard and was passionate about Facebook, but most of it was luck in terms of how big it blew up. Not knocking his achievements but you have to take these things into consideration.

You can tell yourself whatever made up story you want, if it helps you sleep at night. Facebook wasn't an accident nor some string of "luck". Facebook was a strategically acquired idea and built/funded/marketed platform that continued to grow overtime and "defeat" all (or most) rival social media platforms at the time (and still to this day). Public companies that go on to produce billions aren't accidents or strings of luck Sir.

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

One thing I don't like to see is wasted talent. You are bigger than your current stature and game plan. Most men are never told this and thus feel subjugated to a life of mediocrity. I just like to see you at least trying to capitalize on your true value.

Here's the thing, one's man's excellence is another man's mediocrity. Excellence has to be more than just about performing well in the status quo... that would just be too... middle-class.

 

[guru1000]

Excellence is operating--or attempting to operate--to one's full potential, which clearly most men don't do or want to do.

Most men here would rather think they are the prize for the 10% they achieved, leaving 90% of their potential on table.

What's absurd is being in the top 50%, thinking the top 10% of women will approach you, while the top 5% of men approach them.

Guru: "You're better than this"
DJ: "Nah, I'm good"

 

[guru1000]

I'd rather think too highly of myself than not highly enough.

The two are not mutually exclusive. You can think highly of yourself and know you can be better.

 

[guru1000]

This person says that I lack the "intelligence" to connect with people, when my career for over 10 years has been based on connecting with people.

Let me go to bed before this person gets me banned again lol.

You obfuscate business and personal. Do you threaten to go postal if a business prospect rejects you? No you simply move on to the next prospect. And I'm sure you have been rejected by more business prospects than women. Yet, women clearly have the ability to send you postal. You need to toughen up emotionally.

Ironically, succeeding in the business market is a lot tougher than finding a decent LTR, yet I never heard you whine about the business market.

 

[Tenacity]

Excellence is operating--or attempting to operate--to one's full potential, which clearly most men don't do or want to do.

There comes a point when the time invested becomes a "waste" because there's really no significant or meaningful return on the investment provided.

For example, I have an MBA, but my "full potential" would be completing a PhD. Could I complete a PhD if I put my time, energy, and resources towards it? Of course! But is there really going to be a major market return for my career in having a PhD? NO.

I don't believe Excellence is trying to operate at "full capacity" or "full potential".........excellence is the quality of being "extremely good". As long as there's one area you are BETTER in than most of your peers, you have achieved excellence within that particular area, even if it's the only area you have achieved said excellence in.

What's absurd is being in the top 50%, thinking the top 10% of women will approach you, while the top 5% of men approach them.

The metric of "top 10 and top 50" are really subjective. I have seen you guys post pictures of chicks that I didn't think were that attractive as they were too boney with no A.SS. Just like I'm sure the big booty black chicks I like, most of you guys don't like.

So your "top 10 girl" might not be my "top 10 girl", and vice versa.

Guru: "You're better than this"
DJ: "Nah, I'm good"

Again, you have this mentality of just investing, investing, and investing, without looking at the big picture of if said investments are really worth the time, energy, and resources that you will need to put out. See my PhD example above.

 

[Tenacity]

You obfuscate business and personal. Do you threaten to go postal if a business prospect rejects you?

No and I've never went off on a girl for rejecting me either. The girls I go off on, are actually in relationships with me or dating me. It's their poor behavior I go off on.

No you simply move on the next prospect. And I'm sure you have been rejected by more business prospects than women. Yet, women clearly have the ability to send you postal. You need to toughen up emotionally.

Says the guy who threatened to sue me and sue the forum? Says the guy who goes ape shyt and posts racial slurs? Says the guy who went ape shyt in my PM a year ago? Says the guy who ALSO ADMITTED to me in PM that he TOO has had issues going off on women?

Ironically, succeeding in the business market is a lot tougher than finding a decent LTR, yet I never heard you whine about the business market.

You are comparing apples to watermelons.

 

[Tenacity]

The fact that a man can acquire that sort of money and status, yet his woman can still ache for some alpha c0ck doesn't sit well with you at all, does it?

Okay so post the proof that Zuckerberg's wife is aching for another man's (or in this case, cartoon character Alpha Male's) dyck? I'll wait.......

Plus let's just say his woman IS lusting over another man (or cartoon character Alpha Male), do you really think that women across the board don't cheat? So let me guess, the cartoon character Alpha Male doesn't get cheated on lol?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

The fact that a man can acquire that sort of money and status, yet his woman can still ache for some alpha c0ck doesn't sit well with you at all, does it?

Why do you think that deadbeats are alpha?

And are you actually claiming that the wife of a billionaire secretly wants to cheat on him with this mysterious "alpha" man? Yet her husband, the 3rd richest man in the world, is not "alpha" enough for her?

How do you know that Mark Zuckerberg is not a total stud in bed?

Are you saying that Mark Zuckerberg's wife secretly wants to cheat on him with members of this site if they were to meet? Which members?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

There is absolutely no way in the world you can tell the dynamics of a relationship by looking at random pictures.



See this is one of the reasons Men collectively today have fallen, look at the mentality of Men today. You guys hold "getting pvssy" and "getting some wh0re to do dirty things with you" as some accomplishment.....over.....being one of the richest, most powerful, most influential people in the history of the United States.

Mark Zuckerberg has more social proof, attraction, etc., in his left pinky toe than any one on this board combined will ever have X 10. Why did he choose the woman he chose? It could have been for a variety of reasons, it could be that she supports him in other ways that he didn't feel the better looking girls were doing at the time.

But this entire notion that because you can get a chick to do "dirty things with you" makes you some accomplished "real man" over a person who is a REAL accomplished MAN with more power than probably most people in Congress.......is laughable, cartoonish, and shows why Men collectively have fallen as nobody is focused on GAINING REAL POWER anymore. Everybody just wants pseudo-power because that's much easier to obtain.



You can tell yourself whatever made up story you want, if it helps you sleep at night. Facebook wasn't an accident nor some string of "luck". Facebook was a strategically acquired idea and built/funded/marketed platform that continued to grow overtime and "defeat" all (or most) rival social media platforms at the time (and still to this day). Public companies that go on to produce billions aren't accidents or strings of luck Sir.

Okay first off, yes you can tell from pictures. It's called body language. It does most of the speaking for us. More than words do. There have been numerous studies on it that you can find. I'm able to read it fairly well.

Second, I am talking about primal nature. Being more of a MAN means being more in touch with your own masculine nature. That hardly has anything at all to do with your worldly accomplishments. I'm not knocking him or any of his achievements, I mean he is the richest young dude in the world. But you can't possibly say that he has real power. He is the definition of 'pseudopower', as you call it. Why? Just because of his money and his platform. How about in person? You definitions are reversed. Without money, he would not be nearly as powerful as he is. How about someone who had real power? Now this'll piss off nonreligious people, but someone like Jesus. We don't even know if any of his miracles were true or not but the dude has a legacy spanning over 2000 years while having nothing. Martin Luther King and Malcolm X did too. In fact, the latter had so much power that he was assassinated in order to slow down his dreams. Ghandi pretty much said that he'll starve himself in public so that the British can get out and that worked. Jim Jones convinced everyone in his whole city to commit suicide with him, children and babies included. Even Donald Trump is able to move people, whether he had money or not it wouldn't have made a difference because of who he is. THAT is real power. Being able to ignite someone's core being and get them to desire what you want them to desire; CHARISMA. That is true power. The problem is that it's hard to have a very expansive effect with true power like that. Those people are often killed via a 'suicide'. The reason why men aren't giving power is because of the way society currently is. It is much easier for people to be controlled this way (and by the way, the CIA admit to wanting to destabilize society too. Do some research. That's why women are given priority over higher positions than men are in say all science fields, tech fields, and law-related fields aside from prison guards and policing).

Third, Facebook getting as big as it is today WAS an accident. Anyone who gets that rich that fast did so partially out of luck. It's foolish to believe otherwise.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Who gives a toss about zuckerburg? I didn't bring him up. I said that the idea repulses you. And it's because you do this beta bucks bullsh*t. Same as richard the third.

Is it a cartoon when girls keep passing on you for the thug? Or is it the dominant theme of your moaning on here year after year?

Still haven't had a girlfriend, so clearly it's time to change it up.

I don't give girls any money.

If I do, it's just cash for sex like a hooker. But I've only done that twice this year.

I barely even tip bartenders and if they do anything I don't like, I tip them zero.

But that doesn't mean I still don't want to accumulate lots of money just for myself, or even to up my "SMV" (if such a thing exists).

I think you're upset that you are possibly not intelligent enough to ever make lots of money, so you decide to yourself that value is in other things. Perhaps you think you're some kind of hard a$$, I don't know.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I don't give girls any money.

If I do, it's just cash for sex like a hooker. But I've only done that twice this year.

I barely even tip bartenders and if they do anything I don't like, I tip them zero.

But that doesn't mean I still don't want to accumulate lots of money just for myself, or even to up my "SMV" (if such a thing exists).

I think you're upset that you are possibly not intelligent enough to ever make lots of money, so you decide to yourself that value is in other things. Perhaps you think you're some kind of hard a$$, I don't know.

If you had half decent social skills, you would understand what he is talking about. You should not rely on SOLELY money to give you value. What if someone who is like you and has the same occupation as you, but flips houses better than you? What if he just makes more money? Or what if you two are exactly the same in your finances, but he works out a lot more and is a lot more social? He will be the better catch and women will choose him over you.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

If you had half decent social skills, you would understand what he is talking about. You should not rely on SOLELY money to give you value. What if someone who is like you and has the same occupation as you, but flips houses better than you? What if he just makes more money? Or what if you two are exactly the same in your finances, but he works out a lot more and is a lot more social? He will be the better catch and women will choose him over you.

I talk about real things. You talk about theories.

Fact is, YOU don't do any of this stuff. You are neither rich nor charismatic.

And @deesade 's avatar looks like a starving drug addict. Is that what he is in real life?

If I have no social skills, then how do I get people to work for me? How do I have two girls who are both pretty inexperienced willing to have sex with me, and even tell me they want me to fulfill their BD SM fantasies?

99% of other guys are not worth talking to.

 

[Tenacity]

Who gives a toss about zuckerburg? I didn't bring him up.

That's who we were discussing though.

I said that the idea repulses you. And it's because you do this beta bucks bullsh*t. Same as richard the third.

Is it a cartoon when girls keep passing on you for the thug? Or is it the dominant theme of your moaning on here year after year?

For clarification, I didn't say women PASS on me for the thug. The fact that they would consider dating a broke, criminal, thug in GENERAL is what disgusts me. The fact that when I meet a number of women, they have a kid from a thug, is what disgusts me.

I didn't say I was running around here pvssy-less because thugs were taking all of the women. You guys make up your own arguments and then argue against your own arguments.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

The fact that when I meet a number of women, they have a kid from a thug, is what disgusts me.

Yea me too.

 

[Tenacity]

Okay first off, yes you can tell from pictures. It's called body language. It does most of the speaking for us. More than words do. There have been numerous studies on it that you can find. I'm able to read it fairly well.

The ONLY thing I can tell from the pictures of them is that the woman isn't "hot" at all. From a looks perspective, he could have did 10x better. The other stuff you are discussing is pure speculation as you don't know them personally, thus, you don't know the dynamics of their relationship.

Pictures never tell a complete story, for proof all you have to do is scroll through Facebook. People routinely post pictures with them looking happy with their partners, but the people who know the couple personally, know damn well that they are unhappy and always fighting/arguing.

Second, I am talking about primal nature. Being more of a MAN means being more in touch with your own masculine nature.

Cartoon shyt Sir. For example, define "masculine nature". Go ahead.....is it beating your chest? Is it James Bond? Maybe it's Stone Cold Steve Austin? Maybe it's the Marlboro Man?

That hardly has anything at all to do with your worldly accomplishments.

Well sir, when the United States stops operating on a capitalistic system.....then report back to me on how money doesn't matter. Until then, your argument has no basis in any American Reality.

But you can't possibly say that he has real power. He is the definition of 'pseudopower', as you call it. Why? Just because of his money and his platform. How about in person?

Oh I see, so you know Mark Zuckerberg "personally"? Cool, tell me about him, is he a "cool cat"? Is he the life of the party at the bar? Go ahead.....tell me about Mark Zuckerberg because apparently you know him personally, right?

Being able to ignite someone's core being and get them to desire what you want them to desire; CHARISMA. That is true power.

Lol, so are you saying Zuckerberg has failed to do that through Facebook, his various public speeches, and through the FACT that damn near everybody in Silicon Valley worships the ground he walks on?

Third, Facebook getting as big as it is today WAS an accident. Anyone who gets that rich that fast did so partially out of luck. It's foolish to believe otherwise.

Okay and you got this "business analysis" from where now? Did you just RANDOMLY pull this out of thin air or is there some actual market based, intelligent research that's the foundation of your finding? I've studied the start-up and development of Facebook, nothing in my research shows that this was a pure luck/freak accident.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

The ONLY thing I can tell from the pictures of them is that the woman isn't "hot" at all. From a looks perspective, he could have did 10x better. The other stuff you are discussing is pure speculation as you don't know them personally, thus, you don't know the dynamics of their relationship.

Pictures never tell a complete story, for proof all you have to do is scroll through Facebook. People routinely post pictures with them looking happy with their partners, but the people who know the couple personally, know damn well that they are unhappy and always fighting/arguing.



Cartoon shyt Sir. For example, define "masculine nature". Go ahead.....is it beating your chest? Is it James Bond? Maybe it's Stone Cold Steve Austin? Maybe it's the Marlboro Man?



Well sir, when the United States stops operating on a capitalistic system.....then report back to me on how money doesn't matter. Until then, your argument has no basis in any American Reality.




Oh I see, so you know Mark Zuckerberg "personally"? Cool, tell me about him, is he a "cool cat"? Is he the life of the party at the bar? Go ahead.....tell me about Mark Zuckerberg because apparently you know him personally, right?



Lol, so are you saying Zuckerberg has failed to do that through Facebook, his various public speeches, and through the FACT that damn near everybody in Silicon Valley worships the ground he walks on?



Okay and you got this "business analysis" from where now? Did you just RANDOMLY pull this out of thin air or is there some actual market based, intelligent research that's the foundation of your finding? I've studied the start-up and development of Facebook, nothing in my research shows that this was a pure luck/freak accident.

I agree with everything you said except the luck part.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/24/bil...success-like-mine-only-happens-with-luck.html

It's not like he was writing the code thinking "okay, I'm gonna be the 3rd richest person in the world."