If I'm high value.. Why should i?

[CMNILS87]

I'm not approaching girls anymore..

- I work out, most girls don't.

- No I don't have a high status job but I have 3 jobs and I work about 75 hrs a week. I'm ok financially ..

-I keep myself extremely well groomed

- I buy top shelf cologne and apply 2x a day for the smelling pleasure of others.

-I dress well, and make sure to coordinate.

-I'm well read and well spoken.

-Ill never be a male model or have 6 pack abs because I like buffalo wings too much but you can definitely tell I work out and I know I'm stronger than 97% of men walking around..

-I'm book and street smart. We can discus Hellenistic philosophy, or I can tell you what neighborhood to get Percocet in..

-I have no kids

-Never wed.

-Me and my room mate have a sweet ass bachelor pad..

-I know I'm amazing at sex.. Its mind blowingly good


I'm not bragging.. I'm stating facts.
Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex.

But I could pay for high priced escorts that's a 9 in my eyes that would be cheaper than 2 dates with an average looking girl..

You gain at the very least a decent free meal and drinks and so much more if I like you..

So ... Why should I approach girls again?
Unless the IOIs are blatant I'm just not doing it anymore..
I feel like 9/10 girls I'm really the prize and the prize shouldnt have to do the work.

And I know this post sounds very narcissistic
but its truly how I feel lately.

Because the way the market works, men have to approach women. Therein lies the fact of the market and that won't change unless you're a rockstar

 

[Bible_Belt]

I find I most appreciate men who are utterly direct (in a classy way) about what they want. Boldness & directness is sexy.

I fixed that for you. Let's not gloss over the importance of those few words. The exact definition is going to depend on the people involved, the location and other circumstances, so "classy" can be hard to precisely define, but it's an understatement to say that most guys don't get it. In fact, simply understanding that one little thing can go a very long way.

Take on-line dating as one example, look inside any attractive woman's inbox and she will get dozens of messages every day, but 90+% of those messages will be:

yo wudup u dtf

Men would be jealous of that result from OLD, I'm sure, but it is not what women want. All it takes is a little bit of class and tact about being sexual, and you immediately separate yourself from other guys. Taking that one step further, making fun of the way most men act is the easiest conversation to make on a date. It's DHV, AMOG and I'm sure a lot more PUA acronyms I don't know.

 

[BeExcellent]

I fixed that for you. Let's not gloss over the importance of those few words. The exact definition is going to depend on the people involved, the location and other circumstances, so "classy" can be hard to precisely define, but it's an understatement to say that most guys don't get it. In fact, simply understanding that one little thing can go a very long way.

Thanks @Bible_Belt very much. Your comment is absolutely correct.

 

[Solomon]

What's Good Cola, great to see your progression throughout the years

But I think you getting high value mixed up with highly attractive

Can you be both? of course but women will seldom approach unless you're truly attractive and her type. I had a buddy like this where women would approach him all the time offering to buy him free drinks, grabbing him out of the blue etc

When you get to the point where you are super attractive or famous than women will approach you consistently that's just the way the wind blows

 

[guru1000]

This may help:

The girls I don't want approach me.
The girls I want don't approach me.

The only exceptions to this rule are on OLD.

I'm so high value that I don't even need to hustle. Money just falls on my lap

 

[MillionBillionaire]

I'm not approaching girls anymore..

- I work out, most girls don't.

- No I don't have a high status job but I have 3 jobs and I work about 75 hrs a week. I'm ok financially ..

-I keep myself extremely well groomed

- I buy top shelf cologne and apply 2x a day for the smelling pleasure of others.

-I dress well, and make sure to coordinate.

-I'm well read and well spoken.

-Ill never be a male model or have 6 pack abs because I like buffalo wings too much but you can definitely tell I work out and I know I'm stronger than 97% of men walking around..

-I'm book and street smart. We can discus Hellenistic philosophy, or I can tell you what neighborhood to get Percocet in..

-I have no kids

-Never wed.

-Me and my room mate have a sweet ass bachelor pad..

-I know I'm amazing at sex.. Its mind blowingly good


I'm not bragging.. I'm stating facts.
Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex.

But I could pay for high priced escorts that's a 9 in my eyes that would be cheaper than 2 dates with an average looking girl..

You gain at the very least a decent free meal and drinks and so much more if I like you..

So ... Why should I approach girls again?
Unless the IOIs are blatant I'm just not doing it anymore..
I feel like 9/10 girls I'm really the prize and the prize shouldnt have to do the work.

And I know this post sounds very narcissistic
but its truly how I feel lately.

I am totally with you on this.

Approach girls because it is fun, nothing more nothing less. If it ain't fun, then don't do it.

No hate bro but dudes that look like you can just stand at a wall at my bar and girls will approach. Ok I'll admit I'm slightly jellous I rarely get cold approached. The dudes that I'm talking about have no conversation skills and have no car, you are light years above them fools who already don't approach.

It baffels me what a slightly muscular black man can get away with

 

[RichardTheFrog]

It baffels me what a slightly muscular black man can get away with

Why do you think this is?

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

Approaching should be a spontaneous action.... when you feel the attraction like a gravitational pull. It's like one is at one with the cosmos.

It is not a question of whether one should 'approach' or not. This reflects a degenerate mind/ body dualism.

 

[guru1000]

 

[MillionBillionaire]

Why do you think this is?

They are attracted to them and they are "cool".

 

[BeExcellent]

Hilarious. I have that on 12" vinyl, lol

 

[RichardTheFrog]

They are attracted to them and they are "cool".

Oh.

I'm not cool. I'm a psycho. Lol.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

So ... Why should I approach girls again?

Because doing challenging things successful is rewarding. Like seeing how quickly you can solve a Rubics cube.

Successfully approaching and seducing a wider variety of girls will enhance your social skills, which will also come in handy.

Think of it like working out for your interpersonal skills.

 

[Von]

Because doing challenging things successful is rewarding. Like seeing how quickly you can solve a Rubics cube.

Successfully approaching and seducing a wider variety of girls will enhance your social skills, which will also come in handy.

Think of it like working out for your interpersonal skills.

I would add.... who knows on WHOM he might miss if hé doesnt approach

 

[Mr Wright]

The biggest issue with this is that no matter how much I do get hit on by girls, it's never the one I want. I've had girls come up to me and do outrageous things but in my mind its nothing because I'm not too bothered. This weekend I got hit on by two girls near the age of 30 but I wanted the 21 yo brunette with big boobs at the other side of the bar, she's a pretty shy girl and never would have done what the other two girls did. I had to make my move, it was easy once I did it, no resistance at all but I still had to make the move. If you're a good looking, socalised person, girl's have very good reactions to you even if you're not their type. I think by not approaching any girls for the average guy who isn't a bouncer isn't going to get enough foot traffic coming their way to make this viable. Out of the 70-80 girls I've slept with, I reckon only a handful made any sort of move on me at the beginning. Girls can be aware of you but they are passive creatures.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

for someone with an average job

I never said I have and average job. I said I have an average wage.

I can see you are very smooth with your words, but unless you are joking around, there is something you are not telling us.

Without wishing to sound conceited, I am probably above average looks - maybe a 7 on a good day. Maybe 8.5 on a great day. However, if you pay attention to some of my other responses and threads, you will see that it's not a walk in the park. It rarely is for anyone, for one reason or another, until you have years and year of experience and personal growth behind you.

The thing you (and others) should understand is that not everyone here is involuntarily celibate. I came here to become better with women (and people) in general, not because I cant get laid.

What's you reason(s) for being here, just out of interest?

 

[ChristopherColumbus]

The biggest issue with this is that no matter how much I do get hit on by girls, it's never the one I want. I've had girls come up to me and do outrageous things but in my mind its nothing because I'm not too bothered. This weekend I got hit on by two girls near the age of 30 but I wanted the 21 yo brunette with big boobs at the other side of the bar, she's a pretty shy girl and never would have done what the other two girls did. I had to make my move, it was easy once I did it, no resistance at all but I still had to make the move. If you're a good looking, socalised person, girl's have very good reactions to you even if you're not their type. I think by not approaching any girls for the average guy who isn't a bouncer isn't going to get enough foot traffic coming their way to make this viable. Out of the 70-80 girls I've slept with, I reckon only a handful made any sort of move on me at the beginning. Girls can be aware of you but they are passive creatures.

Exactly. I think there is a 'Goldilocks zone', where you are neither too active [desperate] nor too passive... you are in the moment [naturally attuned], your eyes meet, and you act. And this usually happens with mutual attraction, or you are attracted because you feel the woman has a certain substance. Many guys who are in their head too much either don't pick up on the initial 'signals', or start second-guessing themselves.

 

[Julian]

The fact the majority if guys are not high value. The good news is you dont have to be.

And also being high value in my mind is having true money/power/fame/artist/athlete etc. Not because you go to the gym or have a decent job. To be honest thats laughable...its a beta mindstate. Thinking because you can bench 225 and work at joeblow office job that women should be throwing themselves at your feet. The game doesnt work that way.

 

[guru1000]

@LARaiders85, your posts are shlt lately. Snap out of it kid, you got a lot of potential.

 

[sosousage]

What's so wrong about that? It's absolutely true in most cases. Don't put this dating market on the pedestal.

Agreed with guru. I saw big decrease in your posting quality recently, mate. Work on it.