"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Online Woman Are Immoral Scum Bags!!

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I d say as long as you re splitting your attention between multiple women and keeping up your interests u can't go too far wrong. Even if you're chasing u ll b too busy to overdo it. Everyone has their niche.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Sorry, but I am not sharing my woman with anyone else. I also don't buy this whole "be comfortable with yourself being a slob" - that sounds like what these fat feminists say about being proud and fat. I've been out of shape, and I've been in phenomenal shape.. and I know which one got me better results with the opposite sex. Having said that, some of what you mentioned rings true.
SteR,

You have an deep insecurity which needs to be fixed.

A crybaby ego says..."
I'm not sharing my woman with anyone because she is my girlfriend.. We love and respect each other. She is my pacifier. No man touches my woman. Hands off! Don't disrespect me by flirting with my girlfriend!" I will fight you." Texts and calls her all the time. Always touching her. Getting jealous when guys flirt with her. Serious, romantic behavior. Weak.
How does she truly respect and desire you? You treat her that she is not high priority in your life. You cancel dates, go out with other women, set up multiple dates in one evening, talk to other people when on a date with her. (non needy, non emotional behavior.)
To be honest I don't want her to treat me high priority either. She needs a life of her own and I would prefer she talks to other people too cause it shows confidence.

A deeply secure guy says...
.."hun, I have to cancel tonight. We will get together soon" Show her love. But do it with non-needy behavior. On a date say to her...."I want to see you kiss that guy over there." She won't do it. She is thinking "this guy is secure himself, he is not attracted to me, my seduction powers are useless to him." Which challenges her more.
You live for yourself. You don't need a woman to make you happy. The best thing your secure self can say is......"Babe go have fun tonight. Then meet me afterwards." Your attitude needs to be securely EPIC in yourself. That type of non needy, emotional strength is like kryptonite to women.
 
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Sorry, but I am not sharing my woman with anyone else. I also don't buy this whole "be comfortable with yourself being a slob" - that sounds like what these fat feminists say about being proud and fat. I've been out of shape, and I've been in phenomenal shape.. and I know which one got me better results with the opposite sex. Having said that, some of what you mentioned rings true.
Yes, it is not an either/ or but both - be the best you can, and be comfortable with who you are.

The first part is the hardest as we are all just human; so the second part, the acceptance of that fact, is crucial.
 

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Congratulations, you've finally seen the light. It only takes such situations to make you realise women in OLD are all full of sh!t. Women in OLD are only there to boost their egos and their low self-esteems. They want to feel the thrill of being wanted by thousands of men. Some even act interested then flake on you just for the entertainment of seeing you getting angry, and then brag to her friends about how badly guys want her. I've actually tested this by laughing at them as soon as I see she's trying to get me angry and guess what? She gets angry and starts throwing insults because I crushed her ego by not giving in to her games.
I never ever take any women I met online seriously, it's just a bunch of women I wanna fvck. Don't get angry when she flakes, just move on to the next. They are all ego-inflated b!tches.
 

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SteR,

You have an deep insecurity which needs to be fixed.

A crybaby ego says..."
I'm not sharing my woman with anyone because she is my girlfriend.. We love and respect each other. She is my pacifier. No man touches my woman. Hands off! Don't disrespect me by flirting with my girlfriend!" I will fight you." Texts and calls her all the time. Always touching her. Getting jealous when guys flirt with her. Serious, romantic behavior. Weak.
How does she truly respect and desire you? You treat her that she is not high priority in your life. You cancel dates, go out with other women, set up multiple dates in one evening, talk to other people when on a date with her. (non needy, non emotional behavior.)
To be honest I don't want her to treat me high priority either. She needs a life of her own and I would prefer she talks to other people too cause it shows confidence.

A deeply secure guy says...
.."hun, I have to cancel tonight. We will get together soon" Show her love. But do it with non-needy behavior. On a date say to her...."I want to see you kiss that guy over there." She won't do it. She is thinking "this guy is secure himself, he is not attracted to me, my seduction powers are useless to him." Which challenges her more.
You live for yourself. You don't need a woman to make you happy. The best thing your secure self can say is......"Babe go have fun tonight. Then meet me afterwards." Your attitude needs to be securely EPIC in yourself. That type of non needy, emotional strength is like kryptonite to women.

I can see this kind of attitude working for a while.. but if she think you can carry on like this, and have a long term relationship.. Then I doubt this will work, for too long..

Woman these days have many options, a CONFIDENT secure woman, would walk away from this kind of attitude in a matter of weeks..

A very insecure girl might buy into this.. but high value secure woman will just toss your ass aside
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I can see this kind of attitude working for a while.. but if she think you can carry on like this, and have a long term relationship.. Then I doubt this will work, for too long..

Woman these days have many options, a CONFIDENT secure woman, would walk away from this kind of attitude in a matter of weeks..

A very insecure girl might buy into this.. but high value secure woman will just toss your ass aside
Soulforge,

In a long-term relationship it is not about her -- it is about adding value to her life. Share your life with her unconditionally, but never make her your purpose.

You shouldn't care if a confident woman walks away from you.
She has other dating options? "Cool, go explore those options, luv ya" Never say "good luck or see ya" since it shows anger and your closing the door on her. Instead, your door is always open since you're not fazed by her rejections.

What is a unneedy, unemotional guy?
Someone who never gets angry at her, never flinches, smirks, cancels dates, doesn't call her often. If she walks away -- cool. She comes back to you -- cool. Either way you are OK with it since you had an epic weekend.
It is ironic, the women who text me the most are the ones whom I have forgotten about.

A needy ,average guy falls in love with a hot, confident woman. And if she desires another man he is screwed. He let her mindfvck him. She hijacked his brain. What gives her the right to control his thoughts and have him obsessively think about her?
It is ironic, the women who never text me are the ones whom I think about the most.
 
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Soulforge,

It works amazingly well long-term and know several relationships where the man is the "unemotional" one in the relationship.
His wife pleases him every chance she gets. I have seen this in girlfriend/boyfriend relationships where marriage happens because his aloofness.

You shouldn't care if a confident woman walks away from you. She has options, but so you do. Billions of women out there.
Show her unconditional love but never really be 100% fully invested. Let all women go free.
It is not about her -- it is about you. Take the focus off her, share your life with her, but never make it about her.

What is a unneedy, unemotional guy?
Someone who never gets angry at her, never flinches, smirks, cancels dates, doesn't call her often. If she walks away -- cool. One less needy girl in your life. She comes back to you -- cool
It is ironic, the women who text me the most are the ones whom I have forgotten about.

A needy ,average guy falls in love with a hot, confident woman. And if she desires another man he is screwed. She just mindfvcked him.
She hijacked his mind. What gives her the right to control his thoughts and have him obsessively think about her?
It is ironic, the women who never text me are the ones whom I think about the most.
Yea a lot of guys are successful (have kids, etc.) and don't even attempt to pry into the inner workings of female psychology.

They just chill out, worry about themselves, and watch TV. Some even play video games. I really don't know how they do it. But they don't even try to do it. THAT is frustrating, as oppose to me who thinks about this every day and can barely get results.
 

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Yea a lot of guys are successful (have kids, etc.) and don't even attempt to pry into the inner workings of female psychology.

They just chill out, worry about themselves, and watch TV. Some even play video games. I really don't know how they do it. But they don't even try to do it. THAT is frustrating, as oppose to me who thinks about this every day and can barely get results.
You nailed it. These types of men don't overthink or try to understand women. They are non-emotional in their own selfish, oblivion ways.
These "chill men" could be playing a video game when their wife yells.."Im divorcing you!" .....then walks out....
These relaxed men would retort.... "Ok hun, luv ya." and continue playing his video game, without a care in the world.
 
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You nailed it. These types of men don't overthink or try to understand women. They are non-emotional in their own selfish, oblivion ways.
These "chill men" could be playing a video game when their wife yells.."Im divorcing you!" .....then walks out....
These relaxed men would retort.... "Ok hun, luv ya." and continue playing his video game, without a care in the world.
Unfortunately, I cannot turn my brain off.

But I CAN **** tons of hot girls just by paying them a little bit.
 

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SteR,

You have an deep insecurity which needs to be fixed.

A crybaby ego says..."
I'm not sharing my woman with anyone because she is my girlfriend.. We love and respect each other. She is my pacifier. No man touches my woman. Hands off! Don't disrespect me by flirting with my girlfriend!" I will fight you." Texts and calls her all the time. Always touching her. Getting jealous when guys flirt with her. Serious, romantic behavior. Weak.
How does she truly respect and desire you? You treat her that she is not high priority in your life. You cancel dates, go out with other women, set up multiple dates in one evening, talk to other people when on a date with her. (non needy, non emotional behavior.)
To be honest I don't want her to treat me high priority either. She needs a life of her own and I would prefer she talks to other people too cause it shows confidence.

A deeply secure guy says...
.."hun, I have to cancel tonight. We will get together soon" Show her love. But do it with non-needy behavior. On a date say to her...."I want to see you kiss that guy over there." She won't do it. She is thinking "this guy is secure himself, he is not attracted to me, my seduction powers are useless to him." Which challenges her more.
You live for yourself. You don't need a woman to make you happy. The best thing your secure self can say is......"Babe go have fun tonight. Then meet me afterwards." Your attitude needs to be securely EPIC in yourself. That type of non needy, emotional strength is like kryptonite to women.
If you want to argue that as a human being I create suffering by attachment then that's fine, I can understand that.. but I'm not a Buddhist monk, nor do I want to be. I see nothing wrong with demanding my partner to be loyal, nor do I intend to "work on myself" to change that.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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You nailed it. These types of men don't overthink or try to understand women. They are non-emotional in their own selfish, oblivion ways.
These "chill men" could be playing a video game when their wife yells.."Im divorcing you!" .....then walks out....
These relaxed men would retort.... "Ok hun, luv ya." and continue playing his video game, without a care in the world.
:confused:
 

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OLD is good for the top 5% of men. It is what it is. 90% of women are looking to bang that top 10% of men and seriously think they can lock these guys down. Then you see the veterans to OLD add the obligatory "don't message me to hookup" after they have been pumped and dumped. It's laughable. I love reading their profiles and translating them to real world events.
 

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OLD is good for the top 5% of men. It is what it is. 90% of women are looking to bang that top 10% of men and seriously think they can lock these guys down. Then you see the veterans to OLD add the obligatory "don't message me to hookup" after they have been pumped and dumped. It's laughable. I love reading their profiles and translating them to real world events.
It blows my mind how online dating sucks for most men on this site and others
Yet they continue to do without hitting the field to supplement their results
 

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It blows my mind how online dating sucks for most men on this site and others
Yet they continue to do without hitting the field to supplement their results
I agree to the extent that OLD can be used as a crutch to avoid in-person pick up.

Ideally, a DJ should maximize his options, and do both.

Remember, your "game" is only as strong as your current level of abundance. Whatever and however gets you to that abundance, a DJ should exercise.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It should be around the other way.
agreed
I agree to the extent that OLD can be used as a crutch to avoid in-person pick up.

Ideally, a DJ should maximize his options, and do both.

Remember, your "game" is only as strong as your current level of abundance. Whatever and however gets you to that abundance, a DJ should exercise.
I have always preached this both should go hand in hand, add social circle gaming with this and you will have options galore (easier said than done, I know)

The problem I've noticed since I've been back on this site is most rely solely on online game, social circle game and cold approach is a gold mine if you can utilize it but than I understand online gaming is so easy especially if you're in a drought or have scarcity and you just wanna get your whistle wet.

For a guy like you guru being in NYC it must be like shooting fish in a barrel. Most girls in the city i noticed when i visited where easily 7+'s and DTF. This would be hardpressed to find in my small midwestern state where the average girl is a 4 (online dating wise i mean)
 

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It blows my mind how online dating sucks for most men on this site and others
Yet they continue to do without hitting the field to supplement their results
They are lazy more than they want to admit.
 
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