"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Today I was in the mall for a few hours on the hunt. I got a few numbers and got a few rejections.

One chick in particular stood out because she texted me about forty five minutes after I got her number. I took this as a sign that she wanted to see more of me so I scheduled a meet up at a park. We hung out for a few hours and kissed a few times throughout. I didn't try to take her anywhere private to fvck her so Idk if she was down. Logistics were bad

Before she left, I told her it was fun and to hmu when you're free. She then told me how she's always by her phone and never misses a text. Before she got into her car I kissed her some more and she said text her later or whenever you feel like it.

This girl is clearly interested and I'm sure you can tell she's young. 20. Normally I wait until the female hits me up, but my little friend is telling me that she is begging for it. This is a time where it seems that the window is wide open for some reason (things going on in her life) and the iron is hot. I plan on hitting her up when the sun goes down.

What do you think would be the best course of action?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Wait at least a day or two. Nothing wrong with that. Hitting her up too soon can only backfire and stop overthinking.
 

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I am over thinking a little, but she seems very dtf. Doesn't that factor in?
It does but still let her wonder about you 2 days. Show her your independant. Then text her a fun sweet opener and set a date. Ofc it could be possible that it doesnt matter but your best bet is to wait a little.

Keep spinning. When you meet new ones and have a good date with them you will feel the abundance that you need.

I got the plenty of plates atm. But one in particular is quality, she isnt a plate yet. Smart, educated, good values, life and Work in check, awesome body, great dancer and a beauty. Dated her saturday, awesome date but she rejected my kiss. Shes a feminist though and I was really touchy All night. We talked yesterday, I got the urge to set up a new date but Im resisting it. Just Chill and stick to the game. The ones we dont care about, ignore and have patience with chase us. Wait a couple of days and let her wonder, let her hamster spin then she will be releaved. Like damn What the heck took HIM so long!?
And we Will get the answer we want.
 
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It does but still let her wonder about you 2 days. Show her your independant. Then text her a fun sweet opener and set a date. Ofc it could be possible that it doesnt matter but your best bet is to wait a little.

Keep spinning. When you meet new ones and have a good date with them you will feel the abundance that you need.

I got the plenty of plates atm. But one in particular is quality, she isnt a plate yet. Smart, educated, good values, life and Work in check, awesome body, great dancer and a beauty. Dated her saturday, awesome date but she rejected my kiss. Shes a feminist though and I was really touchy All night. We talked yesterday, I got the urge to set up a new date but Im resisting it. Just Chill and stick to the game. The ones we dont care about, ignore and have patience with chase us. Wait a couple of days and let her wonder, let her hamster spin then she will be releaved. Like damn What the heck took HIM so long!?
And we Will get the answer we want.
I get what you're saying and i appreciate your help, but this isn't about oneitis or having a lack of abundance. I have other women that i'm banging, but that isn't the point.

I met her today. Gave her my number. She hit me up while i was still in the mall mentioning something that i said when i hit on her. I got her to meet me at a park . She and i hung out for 2 or 3 hours. We kissed a few times throughout. The whole time throughout, she was receptive to all of my advances. She appeared to be under my spell. As we were leaving, she mentioned me hitting her up many times. Being that all of this happened in the span of 3 or 4 hours, i can see that the iron is very hot.

I can see that the window of opportunity is wide open for today and will only get smaller with time(for the insta lay). Turning her into a plate isn't my primary focus. If she wants to join my team, then she can do that later. This isn't a case of oneitis or me seeing her as some special female. This is about me meeting her today and trying to fvck her today. That happens mostly when the chick has displayed the signs that she has. Sometimes i get that same day lay and sometimes i don't. That's what im asking about. My odds of getting the same day lay when a chick has displayed the signs that she has is about 1 in 3. I'm asking how to increase those odds.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I get what you're saying and i appreciate your help, but this isn't about oneitis or having a lack of abundance. I have other women that i'm banging, but that isn't the point.

I met her today. Gave her my number. She hit me up while i was still in the mall mentioning something that i said when i hit on her. I got her to meet me at a park . She and i hung out for 2 or 3 hours. We kissed a few times throughout. The whole time throughout, she was receptive to all of my advances. She appeared to be under my spell. As we were leaving, she mentioned me hitting her up many times. Being that all of this happened in the span of 3 or 4 hours, i can see that the iron is very hot.

I can see that the window of opportunity is wide open for today and will only get smaller with time(for the insta lay). Turning her into a plate isn't my primary focus. If she wants to join my team, then she can do that later. This isn't a case of oneitis or me seeing her as some special female. This is about me meeting her today and trying to fvck her today. That happens mostly when the chick has displayed the signs that she has. Sometimes i get that same day lay and sometimes i don't. That's what im asking about. My odds of getting the same day lay when a chick has displayed the signs that she has is about 1 in 3. I'm asking how to increase those odds.
By waiting a couple of days going on another date, getting to know her and invité her in for a drink. If shes a slut You can call her now for cex. 90% of the chicks will act better on the first bet because They want to think that You like them because of them not the pvssy. A slut doesnt care.
 

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Same as a girl in a ltr that likes you too. She doesnt want to feel special around You or talk about having kids she wants a bad c0ck to choke bc her bf is being a pvssy.
 

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By waiting a couple of days going on another date, getting to know her and invité her in for a drink. If shes a slut You can call her now for cex. 90% of the chicks will act better on the first bet because They want to think that You like them because of them not the pvssy. A slut doesnt care.
Yea true, but what if you were somehow able to do everything right in that first meetup and has her hamster sleeping for a while. The iron would be very hot for a same day lay and would only cool down with time. Once it cools, she'll be back to her hamster ways.

Like if you approached a chick and told her that you were the singer/actor that she has a crush on. For a while her hamster would sleep, but after a while it would be back to testing you. Know what i mean?
 

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Hit her up as soon as you want. Who cares about rules.
 

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Yea true, but what if you were somehow able to do everything right in that first meetup and has her hamster sleeping for a while. The iron would be very hot for a same day lay and would only cool down with time. Once it cools, she'll be back to her hamster ways.

Like if you approached a chick and told her that you were the singer/actor that she has a crush on. For a while her hamster would sleep, but after a while it would be back to testing you. Know what i mean?
Yes do What You gotta do but I would Wait a couple of days. One thing is certain, neediness kills attraction.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Maybe you can see if she has a friend with a boyfriend and tell them to invite both of you over to his house so you can go and take the beer out of his fridge and see if he has any drugs you can steal...and maybe say you are going to the bathroom but really go into his room and try and find money in his wallet to help pad your earnings as a plunger boy at the local mall.

I'm sure that would be soooo Alpha, lmao
 

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Maybe you can see if she has a friend with a boyfriend and tell them to invite both of you over to his house so you can go and take the beer out of his fridge and see if he has any drugs you can steal...and maybe say you are going to the bathroom but really go into his room and try and find money in his wallet to help pad your earnings as a plunger boy at the local mall.

I'm sure that would be soooo Alpha, lmao
*liquor

The only thing I plunge is your mom's asshvle ;)
 

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*liquor

The only thing I plunge is your mom's asshvle ;)
Pretty disgusting considering she is dead. Necrophelia one of your things, huh?

More of a loser than I thought...can't believe that is even possible
 

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Wait, move, it's all the same if she's really DTF. It seems more like a reassurance request than an advice request.

It not might not be oneitis but if you're worried about losing out before some imaginary window closes, it may as well be.
 

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And your mom's plunge hole
Hey more power to you bro...You want to do all that digging to bang a dead person, I guess you are More desperate than anyone realized.
 

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Wait, move, it's all the same if she's really DTF. It seems more like a reassurance request than an advice request.

It not might not be oneitis but if you're worried about losing out before some imaginary window closes, it may as well be.
Nah I don't rely on anyone to reassure my decisions. I've already decided what I'm going to do. The reason I shared the experience here was so that I could see if the decision I'm making is the ideal decision. I wanted to see if there was an opinion with proper reasoning that would improve my game.

Asking for opinions doesn't mean youre worried. It means you're smart enough to know you don't know it all.

Im looking to improve my game in meeting a chick and getting laid that same day.


Hey more power to you bro...You want to do all that digging to bang a dead person, I guess you are More desperate than anyone realized.
Leave the thread, please. Thanks
 

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Nah I don't rely on anyone to reassure my decisions. I've already decided what I'm going to do. The reason I shared the experience here was so that I could see if the decision I'm making is the ideal decision. I wanted to see if there was an opinion with proper reasoning that would improve my game.

Asking for opinions doesn't mean youre worried. It means you're smart enough to know you don't know it all.

Im looking to improve my game in meeting a chick and getting laid that same day.




Leave the thread, please. Thanks
Leave the forum, please. Thanks.

But before you do, I need my shoes shined...so go get your fvcking shinebox, Spitshine Tommy.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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