"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I live in a multicultural community so I never really faced racism from women. I'm a light skinned Punjabi (Indian) guy with an athletic phisique, strong facial features, natural game, wealthy family (so nice clothes and car) and I'm a pretty confident and social guy. Spinning plates is pretty effortless as long as I maintain myself.

Since I'm pursuing a career in medicine, I'm gonna have to relocate geographically quite a bit over the next 10 years. After I finish my last 2 years of university I'll be going to Aruba for medical school. I've heard that it's pretty open for ethnic guys there since it's a mix of different races.

After medical school I'm gonna have to do residency in the United States for about 4 years before I can start working in Toronto. I'm thinking about going to a place like Miami or Los Angeles for my residency. If I'm successful in a location like Toronto, would it be much different any place else?

Any additional advice would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Any large city in the South, accept Florida is your best bet. Women are more open and friendly and in my experience tend to go out of their way to show you they are not racist, going against the regional stereotype. The Southern US is pretty freaking racist, but the larger cities are more cosmopolitan.
 

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Pick wherever you want because white men will be at the top of the food chain regardless of the location.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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California has much more racially open minded women than the vast majority of the US, they are just tough women in general.
Disagree.

White women in California are heavily against going for anything other than white or black guys, arguably some of the most xenophobic women in the country, nothing more xenophobic and anti-ethnic than your stereotypical California blonde.
 

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Any large city in the South, accept Florida is your best bet. Women are more open and friendly and in my experience tend to go out of their way to show you they are not racist, going against the regional stereotype. The Southern US is pretty freaking racist, but the larger cities are more cosmopolitan.
Accept or except? Because Florida hate on this forum has been very crazy lately.

I've said it in the thread I linked, cannot think of a better city in the US for a well put together ethnic guy than Miami. A well put together Asian or Indian dude could absolutely kill it in Florida in general!

I do admit that an Asian or Indian dude who is well put together can do well in Charleston and New Orleans (Atlanta is very doubtful because it has become infested with rust belt yankees who bring their racism with them).
 

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I've lived in California and in several other places and it's worse elsewhere
Once again, you're wrong. In most other places in the US, the bias against ethnic guys from local white girls isn't nearly as bad as it is in California.
 

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Dead wrong, every minority I know who's lived both places prefers California
By "minority" you must mean black guys because Californians will go out of their way to kiss up to blacks but that isn't true for other minority men. If you're Asian and especially Indian, stay out of California unless you only want to limit yourself to women of your own race (many of whom will be white washed sellouts).

If you want to date white women as an Indian man (which OP is), stay the hell away from California.
 

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By "minority" you must mean black guys because Californians will go out of their way to kiss up to blacks but that isn't true for other minority men. If you're Asian and especially Indian, stay out of California unless you only want to limit yourself to women of your own race (many of whom will be white washed sellouts).

If you want to date white women as an Indian man (which OP is), stay the hell away from California.
damn, sounds pretty convincing. Is there any area in the US thats similar to the standards of toronto?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Good gao has to be ugly AND ethnic. Rich and handsome ethnic guys clean up in Cali. I am 75% asian and 25% french, and cali was the first place where b!tches asked me what race I was. There are millions of Asians and mexicans in cali. @Good Gao stop posting man. You are the biggest loser in the forum. Your perspective means absolutely nothing.

All you are doing is projecting your LOSERNESS to the forum. Loserness is not even a word but I created it for you.
Personal attacks? Lighten up, that is why everyone sees you as a joke.

I stand by what I say.

OP is an Indian guy and he will struggle a ton in California unless he only sticks with Indian women. He has a much better chance of landing hot white girls in the upper midwest, Florida, Texas, and even NYC than he ever will in California.

White girls in California are very very aware of racial stereotypes and tend to avoid races they see as "uncool". While black guys get the pick of the litter, all other minority groups are screwed. I've stayed in both San Fran and Los Angeles, seeing an Indian guy with a hot white girl (especially of the cali blonde variety) is unheard of and something that will turn heads in the state because it is seen as low value, even if the indian guy was handsome and rich.

Stop advertising your overrated garbage state and giving OP bad advice.

I say it with full conviction, it cannot be done, if you're an Indian guy, you will not get hot white girls in California period. You have a way better shot in many other states.
 

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damn, sounds pretty convincing. Is there any area in the US thats similar to the standards of toronto?
If your aim is to get hot white girls, then stay far away from California and Arizona, it is impossible to get hot white girls in those states unless you run into some foreigner but in that case, I'd recommend NYC anyways.

NYC

Miami (and most of Florida)

Austin

Chicago

All those places are far better than most of California, you being Indian will be a heavy heavy hit on your value if you're in the state of California.
 
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