"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Not all women are worth it

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This is probably a big "Yeah of course" post for more senior members of this forum, but maybe this will help out some other new guys. I recently got out of a short term relationship with a women that was very attractive. While she was hot and we had fun, she was a pretty miserable person. Prone to mood swings and lacked moral fiber.

I have been doing a TON of reading on this forum, books, and other sites and was convinced I could get this into a LTR, when I realized I was just being desperate. I ended it quickly even without having something else lined up. I think I can easily get caught up in the process of "I can do this" not "I should do this."

Often times its just easier to move on to the next (even if it is an unknown) and find someone that is a better fit off the bat.

Again, probably obvious to most, but I thought another person might benefit from this reminder :)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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situations like the ones you describe help define/redefine your standards and sense of self worth. good job. it's vital that you recognize when you deserve more and you follow thru with tht knowledge.
 

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No... silly!

They're all sugar and spice, and everything nice! !!:p
 

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Tonight I met a new girl who I had an incredible connection with. It reminded me of the feeling I had when I met my last girlfriend. She had the same eyes. There was an instant, undeniable attraction. She let me massage her feet. She told me her life story. It made me realize I had been putting up with too much crap. She has some tattoos but is taller than my last girl. She is definitely a model. She said she loves modeling more than anything. I had gone to see another girl (who I did see, the one with the same name as my last girl) but this girl stole me away. She is 20. Women that age are so powerful.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Tonight I met a new girl who I had an incredible connection with. It reminded me of the feeling I had when I met my last girlfriend. She had the same eyes. There was an instant, undeniable attraction. She let me massage her feet. She told me her life story. It made me realize I had been putting up with too much crap. She has some tattoos but is taller than my last girl. She is definitely a model. She said she loves modeling more than anything. I had gone to see another girl (who I did see, the one with the same name as my last girl) but this girl stole me away. She is 20. Women that age are so powerful.
Hey bro, can you massage my feet while your at it? These women use the same psychology as a man now adays... You just massaged the feet of a small man who wants what you have.
 

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Hey bro, can you massage my feet while your at it? These women use the same psychology as a man now adays... You just massaged the feet of a small man who wants what you have.
What? That's like asking me to f*ck you if I got laid by a hot girl.
 

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I recently got out of a short term relationship with a women that was very attractive. While she was hot and we had fun, she was a pretty miserable person. Prone to mood swings and lacked moral fiber.

I have been doing a TON of reading on this forum, books, and other sites and was convinced I could get this into a LTR, when I realized I was just being desperate. I ended it quickly even without having something else lined up. I think I can easily get caught up in the process of "I can do this" not "I should do this."
Bro, if she was so attractive, beautiful, and hot, why didn't you just continue have sex with her? Unless she was having mood swings during the sex.

If the man is having sex with a beautiful girl, he shouldn't end because he wants a relationship. Just keep doing it until she wants more or wants out. Am I missing something here? Or do we need relationships with woman to function, like the media, magazines, movies, and tv have told us?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Tonight I met a new girl who I had an incredible connection with. It reminded me of the feeling I had when I met my last girlfriend. She had the same eyes. There was an instant, undeniable attraction. She let me massage her feet. She told me her life story. It made me realize I had been putting up with too much crap. She has some tattoos but is taller than my last girl. She is definitely a model. She said she loves modeling more than anything. I had gone to see another girl (who I did see, the one with the same name as my last girl) but this girl stole me away. She is 20. Women that age are so powerful.
Chasing that blue pill....
 
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OP, if you read red pill and MGTOW stuff, they will try to convince you that NO girl is worth it.

All depends what you want from them. I'm not claiming to know everything.
 
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I think the problem lies in trying to be a Don Juan and spinning quality plates. Even when I was I'm high school I knew that 99% of the girls I was sleeping with were trashy. Only the most beautiful girl was able to invoke emotions in me. It is no different in the real world. You spin plates indefinitely and if you are lucky, you run into someone who is worth it.

I think the hardest thing for guys to accept is just how close to mythical quality women are. You almost have to pray for serendipity or offer a headless chicken to cupid and the gods.
I'm beginning to think that girls can see right through guys who aspire to be Don Juans/PUA's or whatever you want to call it.

Probably if you are good looking, they will give you some. If you're not, they won't and they'll just humor and play with you.

This is not taking money into account, and ignoring red pill/MGTOW for the time being.

Girls probably assume that EVERY GUY wants to be a player. They know the game. They might be totally stupid in some ways, but they might be smart when it comes to that. They know that99% of guys really want their vagina.
 

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I think the problem lies in trying to be a Don Juan and spinning quality plates. Even when I was in high school I knew that 99% of the girls I was sleeping with were trashy. Only the most beautiful girl was able to invoke emotions in me. It is no different in the real world. You spin plates indefinitely and if you are lucky, you run into someone who is worth it.

I think the hardest thing for guys to accept is just how close to mythical quality women are. You almost have to pray for serendipity or offer a headless chicken to cupid and the gods.
This is where the conundrum lies.

A girl can act the part beautifully. She can mirror you, play to your ego and reinvent herself based on what you value and want in life from a woman.

Even if she appears to be worth it, is she really the person you think or hope she is?
 

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A girl can act the part beautifully. She can mirror you, play to your ego and reinvent herself based on what you value and want in life from a woman.
This is called a good problem to have. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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This is called a good problem to have. Enjoy it while it lasts.
How so?

I associate it with bpd or some other type of manipulative exploit on her behalf. Seems like a disingenuous ploy to keep me attached while I'm probably being cuckolded on the side.
 

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How so?

I associate it with bpd or some other type of manipulative exploit on her behalf. Seems like a disingenuous ploy to keep me attached while I'm probably being cuckolded on the side.
All women who love a man will reinvent herself based on what you value.

Unless you are married (and paying the bills) you are not being cuckolded.
 

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All women who love a man will reinvent herself based on what you value.

Unless you are married (and paying the bills) you are not being cuckolded.
Are you sure? I remember reading classic bpd and npd disorders, and women who did such things, were often trying to manipulate their victim into a faulse sense of security.
 

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Are you sure? I remember reading classic bpd and npd disorders, and women who did such things, were often trying to manipulate their victim into a faulse sense of security.
I got my girl to completely transform herself, her makeup, her hair, her clothes, her style, her attitude, her lifestyle - and that was why she became the girl of my dreams and my greatest lover. I didn't see it as her diabolical plan to manipulate me. In the end, I held true to my principles and when she didn't behave the way I wanted I walked away.
 

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I got my girl to completely transform herself, her makeup, her hair, her clothes, her style, her attitude, her lifestyle - and that was why she became the girl of my dreams and my greatest lover. I didn't see it as her diabolical plan to manipulate me. In the end, I held true to my principles and when she didn't behave the way I wanted I walked away.
Haha well mine hasn't done all that. Walking away is pretty much the point I'm at now. Trying to fit in a few last times of pleasure always keeps a sucker coming back for more.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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