Anyone here more on the "quiet" side and do well?

[RangerMIke]

I'm very out going, I will approach anyone I'm interested in and will start conversations with anyone, then I let them do all the talking. I will ask questions or tell an occasional joke or a funny story, but I NEVER talk about myself... ever. In my experience this typically works out best for me.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Think it really depends on social context and especially gauging other characters that are around.

-One time, I'm at a birthday party with probably 100 other people. There's a big guy there - 6'6, 250, bigger than me - and he's drunk, running his mouth, particularly ripping in to a very old and dear friend of mine, showing off in front of the girls. Basically he's making the whole immediate group feel really awkward, and the females were scattering elsewhere. I looked him dead in the eye and told him, clear and cold, to calm down and shut the fck up, or go home. Later on, I pulled the hottest chick at that party, right in his face and you should have seen the expression of utter defeat.

-I live in very cosmopolitan, liberal area of the city. I often see skinny-fat dweebs walking along the street, chewing the fckn ears off their hot GFs. At least half the time, the GF looks totally disinterested in what the guy is saying. He thinks he's being 'entertaining' and consolidating her interest. She's either yawning or just staring at me while I walk past them.

-I've pulled girls in the club and not said a single word. Equally, I've talked women out of coming home with me, simply by asking them outright.

-At least two girls I've been with recently have commented on my conservative texting habits. In spite of this, know that they both dig me, because they continue to ask me out. One even TOLD me outright that it keeps her more interested in me than in other guys who text her all day.

Some take home lessons...?
>Be in control of yourself and what you say.
>If you have something worth saying go for it, but don't feel obliged. The art of conversation is a two way street.
>It's better to say nothing and maintain some mystery, than engage in a conversation that she can have anywhere else, with anyone else.
>When it comes to getting what you want with women, better to give orders than make requests.

 

[Reykhel]

One time, I'm at a birthday party with probably 100 other people. There's a big guy there - 6'6, 250, bigger than me - and he's drunk, running his mouth, particularly ripping in to a very old and dear friend of mine, showing off in front of the girls. Basically he's making the whole immediate group feel really awkward, and the females were scattering elsewhere. I looked him dead in the eye and told him, clear and cold, to calm down and shut the fck up, or go home. Later on, I pulled the hottest chick at that party, right in his face and you should have seen the expression of utter defeat.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story eh?

Just find it hard to believe that an apparently obnoxious drunk who's running his mouth and already ripping another fella verbally, would suddenly turn into a shrinking violet because you "looked him in the eyes and told him to calm down, shut the fvck up or go home" All 6'6 of him didn't do a damn thing. Find it hard to believe that he didn't swing an ashtray at your head which would be many a man's response to being told to "shut the fvck up or go home". Or at least challenge you with a "make me shut the fvck up bytch"

-I live in very cosmopolitan, liberal area of the city. I often see skinny-fat dweebs walking along the street, chewing the fckn ears off their hot GFs. At least half the time, the GF looks totally disinterested in what the guy is saying. He thinks he's being 'entertaining' and consolidating her interest. She's either yawning or just staring at me while I walk past them.

We see what we want to see. She's either yawning or staring at you? Well, self confidence is good, self deception, not so good.

-At least two girls I've been with recently have commented on my conservative texting habits.

Texting is different to face to face conversation.

>It's better to say nothing and maintain some mystery, than engage in a conversation that she can have anywhere else, with anyone else.

Say nothing rather than engage in conversation? That can come across as you being dumb and uninteresting rather than mysterious.

Seriously, I work indirectly with these two guys.

If I didn't make conversation, there would be no conversation. One of them is a mumbling stuttering, feminist, hippy type. I cannot hear the fvcker when he speaks because he doesn't speak up. He's got a girlfriend who earns more than he does amazingly enough (nobody understands that relationship)
The other guy is an introvert and you can see clearly that he's an approval seeker. Initially it was like trying to get blood out of a stone, but now he's starting to open up a little......I'm training him. He has a girlfriend who is equally as introvert. I don't know what the fvck they must take about.......

....neither of these two come across as mysterious. They come across as socially awkward and timid boy men.

I'd a pal who thought that he was a master conversationalist when he was with women. "so what do you do" type questions. He bored them to death.

Let her talk by all means, but a man has got to know how to lead the conversation. Tease her, mock her, create tension. Know when to sexualize the conversation by adding sexual spikes. By all means, get her talking about herself (her favorite subject), but tease her answers in a playful way.....

You've got to mock women. So many women do no develop their personalities and their conversations don't go beyond gossip and social media (observe women in conversation).....if you let her have the run of the conversation without mocking her or adding spikes the conversation will turn boring (or worse enter a supplications frame) and she will blame you....

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Find it hard to believe that he didn't swing an ashtray at your head which would be many a man's response to being told to "shut the fvck up or go home". Or at least challenge you with a "make me shut the fvck up bytch"

The guy in question was a cop. In a room full of cops and a relative newcomer to the host's social circle. He had no place running his mouth and it was completely against his better interests to persist. I just told him so, in no uncertain terms. If a c*nt is being a c*nt, it's someone's job to tell him so, for his own benefit if nothing else.

Well, self confidence is good, self deception, not so good.

The point isn't about me, it's about her apparent lack of interest in her gobsh!te BF.

Texting is different to face to face conversation.

Differing yes; entirely dissimilar, no.

Say nothing rather than engage in conversation?

Nope. Read my point again; it was regards avoiding hackneyed conversations she can have with anyone else.

Let her talk by all means, but a man has got to know how to lead the conversation.

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. But leading a conversation doesn't necessarily mean doing all the talking. In fact, it can mean saying very little.

You've got to mock women. So many women do no develop their personalities and their conversations don't go beyond gossip and social media (observe women in conversation).....if you let her have the run of the conversation without mocking her or adding spikes the conversation will turn boring (or worse enter a supplications frame) and she will blame you....

You're taking everything I'm saying too literally; assuming that all answers and comments are binary. I had higher hopes than that for you Reykhel

 

[Reykhel]

I had higher hopes than that for you Reykhel

I told you not to rely on me, that I'd let you down in the end...

 

[Masculinity]

I used to be very quiet. It makes people nervous and I had to change to improve my social and professional life. I was born an introvert. I am analytical, think very fast, etc. and it takes energy out of me to interact with people. Unfortunately, we live in a society that looks down on introverts and quiet people as "weirdos" or "antisocial" people. I ended up becoming a hybrid of an extrovert and an introvert and it's working much better. I keep quiet more often which creates mystery, and u become more comfortable with speaking to people.