"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
almost 29, am I getting too old to pick up girls 18-22?
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I am 55 my wife is 40, but looks much, much younger (that is her in my profile pic). I have a couple of very young orbiters. I don't have sex with them, but I could and if my wife steps out of line (which she nearly just did) they would become plates. They just would never work out.
Keep in mind, they will age. I don't think an exclusive monogamous relationship with and 18 year old would work. Most 18 year olds are too immature for a relationship. That does not mean you cannot keep them in your rotation. If an 18 year old stuck around somehow for a few years she would get older (duh) so it is possible.
I had a 21 year old when I was 36.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
damn, i envy you dude. I hope to be pulling chicks that age when I hit my 30's.
Nah, not looking for an LTR yet. More of casual dating/sex.
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It was much easier to do it in my 30s than it was in my 20s. Being confident, positive, social and having a sense of humour go a long way. Work on those parts of your personality and you'll see the women gravitate towards you.
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Explain your notion of casual dating, please? Even if you want an LTR you are going to do a lot of dating and nexting.
My program has an LTR as the goal, but in the meantime you are managing a 3 woman rotation. You have a Tuesday night gal, a Thursday night gal, and a Saturday night gal.
For the first 8 weeks you do not promise exclusivity with them, in fact most relationships end by the 8 week mark.
When I was running my rotations I would have sex about 3 times with each gal, meaning I had sex nearly 10 times a week. Is that set up anything like casual dating?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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I would rather be a hot 35 yrs old man than an average 25yrs old one if my desire was to pick up cute 22 yrs old girls.
Problem for me is, I was fat and ugly when younger, and now in my late 20's I decided to take up fitness/weight lifting, and now look the best I ever have.
So because of that, I never had much interactions with girls 18-22 when I was that age, so now at 28 almost 29 I feel awkward approaching girls that young, since I never did it when younger.
I know a guy who's 46 married to a 26 year old...don't know if she has daddy issues, but maybe she does. That's the biggest age gap relationship I know of though.
I want to date different girls, maybe even a few at the same time. I missed out on that in my early 20's due to my horrible appearance (fat, bad acne, glasses, etc), and now want to make up for that in my late 20's now that I look somewhat decent.
There is a certain age in a young woman's life where she opens her mind to the possibility of older men. Before that moment happens it doesn't matter who you are or what you look like, or what you do, you are just not on her radar at all. You may as well be invisible. All that matters is in her mind you are too old for her.
This concept reminds me of a high school mindset. Remember when you were in high school and someone just one grade higher than you seemed SO much older. That mindset persists for a few years for some people even after high school. There is no magic age. It just happens.
However once that magic moment happens you would be very surprised at how much older of men a young woman will open herself up to. Last summer I had a young woman profess her love for me and she is 20 years younger.
I see this happen every single year as many of the same young people return to my workplace year after year and basically use the job to put them through college and university. There is a large group of 20 somethings and many attractive young women. It is very obvious when that switch has been flipped and she is suddenly available to older men.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
interesting information. What age would that generally be? or does it vary?
ok, thanks.
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.