"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
almost 29, am I getting too old to pick up girls 18-22?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I am 55 my wife is 40, but looks much, much younger (that is her in my profile pic). I have a couple of very young orbiters. I don't have sex with them, but I could and if my wife steps out of line (which she nearly just did) they would become plates. They just would never work out.
Keep in mind, they will age. I don't think an exclusive monogamous relationship with and 18 year old would work. Most 18 year olds are too immature for a relationship. That does not mean you cannot keep them in your rotation. If an 18 year old stuck around somehow for a few years she would get older (duh) so it is possible.
I had a 21 year old when I was 36.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
damn, i envy you dude. I hope to be pulling chicks that age when I hit my 30's.
Nah, not looking for an LTR yet. More of casual dating/sex.
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It was much easier to do it in my 30s than it was in my 20s. Being confident, positive, social and having a sense of humour go a long way. Work on those parts of your personality and you'll see the women gravitate towards you.
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Explain your notion of casual dating, please? Even if you want an LTR you are going to do a lot of dating and nexting.
My program has an LTR as the goal, but in the meantime you are managing a 3 woman rotation. You have a Tuesday night gal, a Thursday night gal, and a Saturday night gal.
For the first 8 weeks you do not promise exclusivity with them, in fact most relationships end by the 8 week mark.
When I was running my rotations I would have sex about 3 times with each gal, meaning I had sex nearly 10 times a week. Is that set up anything like casual dating?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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I would rather be a hot 35 yrs old man than an average 25yrs old one if my desire was to pick up cute 22 yrs old girls.
Problem for me is, I was fat and ugly when younger, and now in my late 20's I decided to take up fitness/weight lifting, and now look the best I ever have.
So because of that, I never had much interactions with girls 18-22 when I was that age, so now at 28 almost 29 I feel awkward approaching girls that young, since I never did it when younger.
I know a guy who's 46 married to a 26 year old...don't know if she has daddy issues, but maybe she does. That's the biggest age gap relationship I know of though.
I want to date different girls, maybe even a few at the same time. I missed out on that in my early 20's due to my horrible appearance (fat, bad acne, glasses, etc), and now want to make up for that in my late 20's now that I look somewhat decent.
There is a certain age in a young woman's life where she opens her mind to the possibility of older men. Before that moment happens it doesn't matter who you are or what you look like, or what you do, you are just not on her radar at all. You may as well be invisible. All that matters is in her mind you are too old for her.
This concept reminds me of a high school mindset. Remember when you were in high school and someone just one grade higher than you seemed SO much older. That mindset persists for a few years for some people even after high school. There is no magic age. It just happens.
However once that magic moment happens you would be very surprised at how much older of men a young woman will open herself up to. Last summer I had a young woman profess her love for me and she is 20 years younger.
I see this happen every single year as many of the same young people return to my workplace year after year and basically use the job to put them through college and university. There is a large group of 20 somethings and many attractive young women. It is very obvious when that switch has been flipped and she is suddenly available to older men.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
interesting information. What age would that generally be? or does it vary?
ok, thanks.
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.