"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Half-rant incoming

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Well, I might consider it a warning flag if some chick went on a date with me, and the first thing she did was say "Hey, look at this picture of this guy's d!ck I took. Do you like it"?
That's not the same thing. I work with those girls, it's not like I am ****ing chicks and taking pics of their boobs and showing it to her. A photographer taking nude shots and showing them to you is not the same as someone sucking a guys **** and taking pics of it, common
 

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That's not the same thing. I work with those girls, it's not like I am ****ing chicks and taking pics of their boobs and showing it to her
I might be more alarmed if the naked d!ck guy was her job. :)
 

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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There's porn. And prostitution.
Yes, there is. But in prostitution they don't take pics of ****s, as far as I know. And this girl is neither a prostitute, nor a pornstar. You trynna have some fun, man? :p
 

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I think you should calm down LOL I had loads of fun at the party since that is mainly what I went for, not to spend another 3-4 hours with her. Next day I went to another shooting session I had. It unphased me for a short period of time. Then I got back to normal and that is where I have been ever since. I couldn't care less that she didn't like the picture. 200 other people liked it and most importantly, I liked it. I was just curious what she thought of that because I have had girlfriends/plates in the past and other plates now react quite calmly and say it was a superb picture. She's just insecure overall so she kinda had to make up for it by "putting down my work" which as I said, I don't even really mind, it just made it funny. Then, when she went to "jokingly" (as she said afterwards) follow the band guy, I was like "what? why? in front of me? you kidding me?"
Does definitely reek of insecurity on her part. Just seems like your playing with fire a bit by showing pics of that nature, especially to plates. And the vindictiveness on her part is pretty ridiculous and childish. The point I was getting at is that it looks like you are trying to brag about what you do and that is based a bit in insecurity. To me, a true alpha/DJ/whatever it's called is someone who needs validation from nobody, not on social media or in person.
 

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Does definitely reek of insecurity on her part. Just seems like your playing with fire a bit by showing pics of that nature, especially to plates. And the vindictiveness on her part is pretty ridiculous and childish. The point I was getting at is that it looks like you are trying to brag about what you do and that is based a bit in insecurity. To me, a true alpha/DJ/whatever it's called is someone who needs validation from nobody, not on social media or in person.
This thread made me realize what it means when I read some of you guys talk about "leading" the female. Part of "leading", on the man's part, involves demonstrating HOW the interpersonal interaction will occur. What will the interpersonal dynamics of the relationship be?

Showing a nudie to your current plate, in a direct effort to stir jealousy or insecurity, is IMO an extremely poor leadership position to take when it comes to defining how the interpersonal dynamics of that relationship will work. As demonstrated in this thread, she responds in the manner to which he has led, or at least HER interpretation of what his intentions were.

(Note: idk if that was the intention of the OP, I'm just commenting observations)

Anywhoo, my standards are now raised. I will be moving forward looking for a man who wants to lead by demonstrating solid interpersonal relationship dynamics. Any man who does not shall get the boot, without hesitation.
Thanks guys!
 
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This thread made me realize what it means when I read some of you guys talk about "leading" the female. Part of "leading", on the man's part, involves demonstrating HOW the interpersonal interaction will occur. What will the interpersonal dynamics of the relationship be?

Showing a nudie to your current plate, in a direct effort to stir jealousy or insecurity, is IMO an extremely poor leadership position to take when it comes to defining how the interpersonal dynamics of that relationship will work. As demonstrated in this thread, she responds in the manner to which he has led, or at least HER interpretation of what his intentions were.

(Note: idk if that was the intention of the OP, I'm just commenting observations)

Anywhoo, my standards are now raised. I will be moving forward looking for a man who wants to lead by demonstrating solid interpersonal relationship dynamics. Any man who does not shall get the boot, without hesitation.
Thanks guys!
She would have seen the pic anyways. That is the whole point. I have seen her make jealous remarks before so I wanted to see her reactions in person. Had she seen the pic when alone, I am positive she would've started resenting so I just wanted to see how she reacted to it. And she reacted just as expected. It helps make a decision if this girl fits my standard for a long term relationship or not. I do not see how I lead her bad LOL

And you might think it was a stupid thing as "he wanted to make her jealous", but it is not. I wanted to see how she reacted to it cause I had my doubts before that and as you may already know, women in general are creatures that do not accept almost anything if you sit them down to talk about something specific that concerns you about them. I have a problem with any girl being insecure so openly about things like this and if I doubt one of them is but is somehow hiding it, I will not let it go undetected cause I am considering this woman with the relationship keys and I just cannot have this kinda thing happening time after time. It is part of my standard to be with a woman who thinks she can keep me, not with one who gets jealous for stupid ****.

And what is this "wrong type of leadership"? I mean, women do this all the time. They test and test and test for different traits they want or don't want in a man. So, when women do it, around the forum we say "it's just female nature, nothing wrong with it", while if a man does, it's called "wrong type of leadership"? LOL talk about double standard
 
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Anywhoo, my standards are now raised. I will be moving forward looking for a man who wants to lead by demonstrating solid interpersonal relationship dynamics.
This is what I often say. That men should lead by modeling good behavior. Leading is the male role, after all. To say "I'm going to act up because women act up" is childish and gets us nowhere.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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@lizardking82 I wasnt trying to call you out. I was merely stating what I had learned from this thread.

Interestingly enough, this idea that men should lead had my feminist Spidey senses tingling. But NOW I see it more clearly, and agree. I would LOVE to have a man in my life who led WELL. Can't say I have ever had that, but my standards were never "there". They sure are now!

(Bad cell service)
 
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