Spot on!Women tend to self-sabotage relationships they aren't happy with to get the guy to break up with her or give her an excuse to breakup with him.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Spot on!Women tend to self-sabotage relationships they aren't happy with to get the guy to break up with her or give her an excuse to breakup with him.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
From your conscious perspective, why do women do that?Spot on!
And on that topic.... is there a distinction to be made between women doing it out of self-sabotaging / self-destructive behavior, and women who simply lost interest and want to manufacture an 'easy way out'. My thinking is that the former is more subconscious behavior, whereas the latter is conscious / premeditated.From your conscious perspective, why do women do that?
This usually happens in relationships when the man thinks it is going well while the woman doesn't think so. Simply put, the man is getting what he wants from the relationship but the woman is not getting what she wants. i.e. the man is happy while the woman is unhappy.From your conscious perspective, why do women do that?
If a woman has a self-sabotaging / self-destructive tendency, you can see it in other areas, not just relationships.And on that topic.... is there a distinction to be made between women doing it out of self-sabotaging / self-destructive behavior, and women who simply lost interest and want to manufacture an 'easy way out'. My thinking is that the former is more subconscious behavior, whereas the latter is conscious / premeditated.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Thanks.This usually happens in relationships when the man thinks it is going well while the woman doesn't think so. Simply put, the man is getting what he wants from the relationship but the woman is not getting what she wants. i.e. the man is happy while the woman is unhappy.
Under those circumstances, the man would not usually let the woman go easily unless the woman makes him hate her, so the woman has to behave as nasty as she can to make the man give up the relationship. That is the only way for a clean breakup. But that is mostly unconscious on the woman's part.
Hello, I understand how you feel, I had a similar situation where a gf went from "I Love you" to "I need some time" (3 weeks of radio silence leading to a break up "We are not compatible" bs) in less than 24 hrs.In hopes that this thread will someday be of help to others, I am providing a minor update...
It has now been over two weeks of radio silence (on both ends). I'll admit to being shocked by that... I've never had this happen before, not a good feeling. Obviously if someone goes silent for two weeks I consider us 'broken up', but without any sort of talk / closure.... it just seems so cowardly? Either cowardice or extreme indifference..... which are such extreme sudden changes from how she had been acting (in love, amazing gf material).
In addition to reading everyones' posts on the thread, I have been trying to educate myself more by reading stickies on the forum. I am now wondering, where is the line drawn between 'normal' fickle female behavior and conditions like BPD, Cluster B, Love Bombing, Projectors, etc? When I think about how amazingly well we had been connecting, how in sync our personalities were, how much effort she was putting in, trying so hard to impress me and ensure that this was going somewhere.... I'm still baffled by the sudden extreme change. I realize I made a few missteps of my own (trying to talk he through her stress) that likely lessened the attraction a bit, but I am struggling to see how that alone could explain such a rapid behavior change..... at the gut level I am feeling either some other event occurred that she didn't share with me, or she is emotionally broken in some way. Even with the depression tainting the last few weeks, our sexual chemistry was always ridiculous.... banged her brains out multiple times whenever we'd get together, even when she was mopey.... physically / sexually we were perfectly synchronized --- but emotionally she just seemed to suddenly withdraw / dissociate, after 2 months of being very invested. It's bizarre, she kept pushing for more emotion and then later when I finally caught up it's as if she became overwhelmed and panicked... withdrew. Either that or she felt she 'won', lost interest / attraction, and became indifferent. Just thinking aloud lads, open to hearing theories...
For those reading thinking 'who cares why, get over it and move on' ... I like to understand as best as possible to be better armed for the future. Thankfully, I have a lot of hobbies and a very active work-life, so I have been able to throw myself into those during this time. After a week I started 'spinning up some plates' (see I am learning the lingo) and went on a few dates, enjoyable as distractions but nothing I am really excited about yet. I don't get excited easily, which is why this whole thing is such a disappointment.