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Heard the word friend...time to abort?

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About a month ago a coworker l, we'll call him Gary, and I went out for a drink to celebrate a new job he landed in his home country to be with his wife and daughter. While we were out, one of his friends came out to join us, we'll call her Erin. Erin and I immediately let hit it off and had a fun evening.

A few days later my coworker moved and I asked Erin if she wanted to meet to go running (we're both marathoners). We met up, ran, and then got food. We ended up talking for 9 hours at the restaurant/ bar and made plans to meet again.

In between that first meeting we exchanged a ton of texts and phone calls. She initiated most of these interactions. I found out through one of these calls that Gary and her had been living together and she had not known about his other life abroad.

We hung out last week and hooked up, but didn't have sex. She initiated this after displaying a ton of IOIs. There seemed to be a ton of chemistry and she told me she really liked me / couldn't believe it had been so long to find me.

The next day she had a doctors appointment and "got some bad news". She didn't tell me what she found out, but she was deeply upset.

Yesterday she sent me a message out of left field that said she would like to continue to hang out but not hook up until she was over Gary and the fact that we were friends made it tougher. She said she didn't know how much time it would take and that she can't be certain it'll turn into something more, but she thinks it would.

I replied. Thanked her for her honesty but told her it would be best to just let this end now.

She didn't expect this reply obviously and has sent me a three messages telling me how upset she is and how much she'll miss me. I haven't responded.

I really liked this girl, but is it worth keeping alive? Normally I'd say hearing the F word means it's time to gtfo, but the recency of the harsh breakup / doctors results have me questioning things.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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About a month ago a coworker l, we'll call him Gary, and I went out for a drink to celebrate a new job he landed in his home country to be with his wife and daughter. While we were out, one of his friends came out to join us, we'll call her Erin. Erin and I immediately let hit it off and had a fun evening.

A few days later my coworker moved and I asked Erin if she wanted to meet to go running (we're both marathoners). We met up, ran, and then got food. We ended up talking for 9 hours at the restaurant/ bar and made plans to meet again.

In between that first meeting we exchanged a ton of texts and phone calls. She initiated most of these interactions. I found out through one of these calls that Gary and her had been living together and she had not known about his other life abroad.

We hung out last week and hooked up, but didn't have sex. She initiated this after displaying a ton of IOIs. There seemed to be a ton of chemistry and she told me she really liked me / couldn't believe it had been so long to find me.

The next day she had a doctors appointment and "got some bad news". She didn't tell me what she found out, but she was deeply upset.

Yesterday she sent me a message out of left field that said she would like to continue to hang out but not hook up until she was over Gary and the fact that we were friends made it tougher. She said she didn't know how much time it would take and that she can't be certain it'll turn into something more, but she thinks it would.

I replied. Thanked her for her honesty but told her it would be best to just let this end now.

She didn't expect this reply obviously and has sent me a three messages telling me how upset she is and how much she'll miss me. I haven't responded.

I really liked this girl, but is it worth keeping alive? Normally I'd say hearing the F word means it's time to gtfo, but the recency of the harsh breakup / doctors results have me questioning things.
Ghost time.... She should be chasing you instead of being confused, not over someone, yada yada yada.
 

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You made the right move. The bad news from the doctor sounds like either an STD or pregnancy. That's the only thing I could think of which would warrant her not sharing and her statement of wanting to avoid sex.

Needing time to get over someone is bullshít. As evident by your time together, it is clear she likes you.This excuse is always code for something else. Your best bet is to lay low and let her come to you. You should be getting some texts soon explaining the real reason behind her actions.
 

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"We hung out last week and hooked up, but didn't have sex."

I believe hookup means to have sex.
 

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Yeah BS line, sounds like Gary gave her herps or is pregnant. Good thing you didn't fvck her, then you might be on a trip to see the doc.
 

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When you get the long winded "I still love Jeremy so can we hang out as friends" letter you simply say "no". This situation can be turned around but it's unlikely without you turning her on.
 

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A Master DJ will eventually turn a friend into a sex slave and get her eating out of his hands. I don't think there is such thing as friend zoning. Once you break down that barrier she will be obsessed with you and impossible to get rid of.
 

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Yesterday she sent me a message out of left field that said she would like to continue to hang out but not hook up until she was over Gary and the fact that we were friends made it tougher. She said she didn't know how much time it would take and that she can't be certain it'll turn into something more, but she thinks it would.

I replied. Thanked her for her honesty but told her it would be best to just let this end now.

She didn't expect this reply obviously and has sent me a three messages telling me how upset she is and how much she'll miss me. I haven't responded.

I really liked this girl, but is it worth keeping alive?
NO. You have the upper hand since SHE initiated the break up.

The ONLY way you can go back is if she TAKES BACK the stuff she said is bold. If she does not take that back in writing, stay away. IF she says "I would really like to hook up with you and turn this into something serious." THEN you can consider to go back.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Yesterday she sent me a message out of left field that said she would like to continue to hang out but not hook up until she was over Gary
She wants Gary, not you. I'd move on and not expect too much from this girl. This basically means she might bang Gary again and doesn't want to feel dirty by banging two at once. Quid pro quo, she'd rather bang Gary.

A few days later my coworker moved and I asked Erin if she wanted to meet to go running (we're both marathoners). We met up, ran, and then got food. We ended up talking for 9 hours at the restaurant/ bar and made plans to meet again.

In between that first meeting we exchanged a ton of texts and phone calls. She initiated most of these interactions.
You got friend-zoned because you acted like a friend. Not exactly rocket surgery, is it.

NINE hours dude....?? Seriously.
 

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She wants Gary, not you. I'd move on and not expect too much from this girl. This basically means she might bang Gary again and doesn't want to feel dirty by banging two at once. Quid pro quo, she'd rather bang Gary.





You got friend-zoned because you acted like a friend. Not exactly rocket surgery, is it.

NINE hours dude....?? Seriously.

^ Shoulda turned that nine into a sixty nine! Nah, scratch that you coulda got herpes. What in the hell do you have left to talk about now?o_O
 

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9 hours is crazy. You should have ran, grabbed a quick bite to eat and escalated to your place. Or left and met up later.....at your place.

Dont smash just dash on this one. Go ghost and see if she chases. If not, Gary is probably still getting his c0ck sucked by her on the regular.
 

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I think you handled it perfectly.

The doctor appointment stuff is suspicious (could be a pregnancy or an STD as others have said).
And the line about not being over Gary is obviously BS. One day she tells you she can't believe how long it took her to find someone like you and the next day she's not over Gary? Really? I don't buy the part about her not knowing that Gary has a family in another country either. Surely Gary must talk to his wife and daughter on the phone sometimes? And she lived with the guy. You can't hide stuff like that for long when you are living together.

Too many red flags...either the girl is crazy, or she's playing games (or both). Don't waste your time.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Just to close this out: I told the girl I'm not into it and ghosted. She freaked out and made a big deal to meet and talk. I basically told her that I cannot and will not be a friend. She said she was into me and wanted to think things over for a day. I told her that's fine, but I may change my mind as well... I have 0 stock in this now and am pursuing others
 

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Just to close this out: I told the girl I'm not into it and ghosted. She freaked out and made a big deal to meet and talk. I basically told her that I cannot and will not be a friend. She said she was into me and wanted to think things over for a day. I told her that's fine, but I may change my mind as well... I have 0 stock in this now and am pursuing others
"Hey _____, I was really into hooking up with you but now with all this clutter and drama and you going back and forth.....I'm not so into it. I think I am better off exploring other interests at this point. Take care."

She will either come over and r@pe fvck you or go bye bye asap. But you'll get a quick answer and wont waste any more time.
 

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You are the backup plan. Never agree to that. You did the right thing. You are not interested in friendship, that is NOT what you want, so do not agree to that. Tell her you have enough friends... if she is ready to give you something more the door is open, otherwise she needs to go figure out her drama... drama is no fun, you don't want that BS.
 

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You are the backup plan. Never agree to that. You did the right thing. You are not interested in friendship, that is NOT what you want, so do not agree to that. Tell her you have enough friends... if she is ready to give you something more the door is open, otherwise she needs to go figure out her drama... drama is no fun, you don't want that BS.
I guarantee she misses Gary and is grooming you to bet her emotional tampon. Don't be her friend.
 
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