OLD success...easy ways to attain it

[BackInTheGame78]

For those struggling in OLD, I am going to let you know the way I've found to have more success then ever with OLD. Every woman I've dated over the past 3 months on OLD has wanted to see me long term, and I've had no flakes going on 5 months. I've had sex with 11 of these women by my count over the past 5 months, all but 1 of them multiple times(my choice she begged to see me again but I went ghost...sex was bad and she didn't look that good naked). Currently I am seeing and banging 5 plates, all of which I've been going out with for 6+ weeks at this point in time. I've found a good stable core, but I'm actually having issues fvcking this much...I tend to space the dates out not because I can only busy so many nuts in a week before it literally hurts to pee from too much work. Turning down sex regularly...never thought I'd get to this point. Here is how it happened:

1) Communicate with her regularly. Not 24/7, and not "set the date and go ghost til the date". Somewhere in between...a text or two a day, a few texts every other day. Let her know you are thinking about her(after the first few dates) and are looking forward to seeing her, Including the day of the date. More communication = more dates, less flakes and more long term interest on her part. I struggled with getting the long term interest part down as I'd fvck them pretty quick but they would then usually only stay around for 4 or 5 fvcks before moving on because I believe they felt that was all I was looking for. It's cool if you are, but a few extra texts does wonders for their sustained interest levels and you can still just be about banging her. She will stick around longer if she thinks you are interested in her.

2) Texting improves your chances when done right, not hurts. This is the biggest lie anyone has ever told you..."Texting kills relationships" or "text to set up dates and then go ghost". What it really means is that you need to work on your texting skills because anyone who has good texting skills knows it helps a lot.

3) It's OK to let them know you find them attractive and are interested in them. I like letting them know "it's nice to actually meet someone with potential" in texts post first date. I tell them how attractive and sexy I find hem while making out with them. I find something to complement them on that is based on how I view them that has nothing to do with looks, ie "You are really easy to talk to and make me feel really comfortable when I'm with you. That's a very cool trait to have."

4) Dont forget to be sexual. While all of this is going on that goes "against the grain" on SS, don't forget to be sexual. Gently pull her hair while making out. Grab and squeeze her ass in the parking lot when kissing goodbye. Rub your hand on her boobs. Tell her how sexy you find her and that you are having trouble keeping your hands off her.

I think too many people here are focused on absolute "rules" that are polar opposite of what AFC's do, which obviously work better than what AFC's do. However you are missing out on a lot of dates, a lot of lays and a lot of long term plates by not finding the middle ground while adhering to the principle of the "rules" and understanding the context of them. Too many people don't understand context and what makes you actually lol desperate versus just being a cool interesting guy who shows he has some interesylt level in her versus being a guy that plays by rules designed to be like "Paint by numbers". Dont paint by numbers, learn the basic principles and then be an artist. Take the training wheels off. The "Rules" people here preach with ultimate certainty are simply training wheels preventing you from truly learning how to ride a bike when you follow them blindly and have no context .

 

[Konada]

So what happens if the girl texts you stupid crap like 'Look at this dog, its so cute! Omg my day is so stressful right now, have an event to clear." etc etc and expect you to reply? Do you entertain her or send a flirty message and cut it off?

 

[sazc]

So what happens if the girl texts you stupid crap like 'Look at this dog, its so cute! Omg my day is so stressful right now, have an event to clear." etc etc and expect you to reply? Do you entertain her or send a flirty message and cut it off?

if a female is texting you random stuff like that, and you dont want to appear totally rude/indifferent, your best bet would be to WAIT before you respond and then respond appropriately, but with few words. An emoji would work in both of those cases. How long do you wait? If you are at work consider waiting until lunch time of after work.

In general it is super important to 'set up' the texting situation to let the person know that you will get back as soon as you have a moment. It's completely appropriate to put work first, put whatever you are engaged in ATM first, etc. Out of the gate you have to communicate "hey, I'm definitely around, but I am also adulting so I cant be your 24/7" Any reasonable adult is going to understand that and not give you grief for it. If you find that the other person gives you grief, then they are a bit insecure and need to find things to occupy their time.

 

[Konada]

if a female is texting you random stuff like that, and you dont want to appear totally rude/indifferent, your best bet would be to WAIT before you respond and then respond appropriately, but with few words. An emoji would work in both of those cases. How long do you wait? If you are at work consider waiting until lunch time of after work.

In general it is super important to 'set up' the texting situation to let the person know that you will get back as soon as you have a moment. It's completely appropriate to put work first, put whatever you are engaged in ATM first, etc. Out of the gate you have to communicate "hey, I'm definitely around, but I am also adulting so I cant be your 24/7" Any reasonable adult is going to understand that and not give you grief for it. If you find that the other person gives you grief, then they are a bit insecure and need to find things to occupy their time.

Well to be honest, I kind of shot myself in the foot with this one... She went from not initiating any texts with me because she was scared of being clingy to texting me everyday when I told her 'its refreshing to have a girl contact you once in a while so I don't feel like I'm wasting my time.'

 

[sazc]

The general rule in my (female) world is, if he's not texting, especially after the first date, he's not into you. If I go on a first date and we set up #2 and I dont hear from him slash he isnt making an effort to get to know me, the assumption is that he's only after one thing, and it aint my brain. I'll go on date two to see if there's a vibe or not, but if he's not trying to engage me, get to know me, reciprocate with letting me in, it's a sure thing he's not into me and is trying to plate me.

This is why you want to consider communicating reasonably.

 

[sazc]

Well to be honest, I kind of shot myself in the foot with this one... She went from not initiating any texts with me because she was scared of being clingy to texting me everyday when I told her 'its refreshing to have a girl contact you once in a while so I don't feel like I'm wasting my time.'

right, and she took that and over did it. She's sweet on you and she believes you want to let her in. If you find the volume of text annoying and need to say something, then say something. If you can live with the amount of incoming texts, you just dont want to engage each one, then tell her next time you see her "I hope you understand, I dont mind when you send me stuff, I'm just not always able to reply to each text" and leave it at that.

 

[9Volt]

For those struggling in OLD, I am going to let you know the way I've found to have more success then ever with OLD. Every woman I've dated over the past 3 months on OLD has wanted to see me long term, and I've had no flakes going on 5 months. I've had sex with 11 of these women by my count over the past 5 months, all but 1 of them multiple times(my choice she begged to see me again but I went ghost...sex was bad and she didn't look that good naked). Currently I am seeing and banging 5 plates, all of which I've been going out with for 6+ weeks at this point in time. I've found a good stable core, but I'm actually having issues fvcking this much...I tend to space the dates out not because I can only busy so many nuts in a week before it literally hurts to pee from too much work. Turning down sex regularly...never thought I'd get to this point. Here is how it happened:

1) Communicate with her regularly. Not 24/7, and not "set the date and go ghost til the date". Somewhere in between...a text or two a day, a few texts every other day. Let her know you are thinking about her(after the first few dates) and are looking forward to seeing her, Including the day of the date. More communication = more dates, less flakes and more long term interest on her part. I struggled with getting the long term interest part down as I'd fvck them pretty quick but they would then usually only stay around for 4 or 5 fvcks before moving on because I believe they felt that was all I was looking for. It's cool if you are, but a few extra texts does wonders for their sustained interest levels and you can still just be about banging her. She will stick around longer if she thinks you are interested in her.

2) Texting improves your chances when done right, not hurts. This is the biggest lie anyone has ever told you..."Texting kills relationships" or "text to set up dates and then go ghost". What it really means is that you need to work on your texting skills because anyone who has good texting skills knows it helps a lot.

3) It's OK to let them know you find them attractive and are interested in them. I like letting them know "it's nice to actually meet someone with potential" in texts post first date. I tell them how attractive and sexy I find hem while making out with them. I find something to complement them on that is based on how I view them that has nothing to do with looks, ie "You are really easy to talk to and make me feel really comfortable when I'm with you. That's a very cool trait to have."

4) Dont forget to be sexual. While all of this is going on that goes "against the grain" on SS, don't forget to be sexual. Gently pull her hair while making out. Grab and squeeze her ass in the parking lot when kissing goodbye. Rub your hand on her boobs. Tell her how sexy you find her and that you are having trouble keeping your hands off her.

I think too many people here are focused on absolute "rules" that are polar opposite of what AFC's do, which obviously work better than what AFC's do. However you are missing out on a lot of dates, a lot of lays and a lot of long term plates by not finding the middle ground while adhering to the principle of the "rules" and understanding the context of them. Too many people don't understand context and what makes you actually lol desperate versus just being a cool interesting guy who shows he has some interesylt level in her versus being a guy that plays by rules designed to be like "Paint by numbers". Dont paint by numbers, learn the basic principles and then be an artist. Take the training wheels off. The "Rules" people here preach with ultimate certainty are simply training wheels preventing you from truly learning how to ride a bike when you follow them blindly and have no context .

^^^This.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The general rule in my (female) world is, if he's not texting, especially after the first date, he's not into you. If I go on a first date and we set up #2 and I dont hear from him slash he isnt making an effort to get to know me, the assumption is that he's only after one thing, and it aint my brain. I'll go on date two to see if there's a vibe or not, but if he's not trying to engage me, get to know me, reciprocate with letting me in, it's a sure thing he's not into me and is trying to plate me.

This is why you want to consider communicating reasonably.

I call BS. I never text between dates and it only helps raise a woman's interest.