"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Does anyone here actually like "talking" to women?

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Well if those are the women you're interested in, then wouldn't it be self-explanatory that you enjoy talking to them?
Even then, how many times do I run into those women? The basic b!tches is the norm. So I basically cut out a large chunk of women because they aren't willing to be unique.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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For me to enjoy talking to a woman she either needs to have above average intelligence and give-a-d@mn about the world compared with most other women, and/or, she needs to have the same type of humor as me or pretty darn close. I can work with one or the other. If she has neither then she is not worth my time.
 

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Regarding approaching women, there is a universal indicator of high probability of success:

Her smile is her invitation to you.

If a woman smiles at you or gives you an extra-long look, she is inviting you to approach her and it's Game On.

In my opinion it makes no sense whatsoever to even bother with random women who don't give the "come hither" signal. This usually ends up contrived and strained. Women feel this and they reject because of it.

The way it works by nature is that the hunter hunts around, the prey shows a feminine sign of weakness or submission, and the game is on. This is nature and this will never change. I advise men to forget about approaching women who haven't shown interest. All this does is makes you feel like a failure and makes it appear to you that halfway decent women are scarce.

A man can never be universally attractive like a woman can. Men appeal to a certain subset of womankind because women respond by instinct and emotion. We men respond mostly to the physical. Therefore a woman can appeal to almost all men but a man cannot appeal to most women; only a subset. You'd be surprised how many women would have no interest whatsoever in Brad Pitt. These are the quality women who are looking for a man's substance. Why not be that man to her?

Go out on the prowl, and go after only the subset of women who send a nonverbal invitation to you. Your success rate will soar and your confidence will rise exponentially.

While implementing this strategy, be sure to clearly reject women with an air of disgust who are acting in any way that you disapprove of. Every man should get used to rejecting women. This is not to be mean, but rather to increase your confidence and normalize your view of yourself in relation to women. We need to flip the script back to what nature demands, which is men unapologetically stepping up in the world as authorities and rulers of the world.

Our weak forefathers in the 60's on down the line showed weakness and fear in the face of a handful of loudmouth feminists in the media, and college girls who were injected with feminist poison. We are here to normalize male/female dynamics. Massive numbers of early feminists have mellowed and turned their backs on feminism. This is because they develop a capacity to think and reason to some degree as they age. We men are the reasoners and the authority of the world.

Every normal woman wants a man who is dominant. Again, this is nature. Look for those little smiles and lingering looks and any other indicators of interest and forget about the neutral and negative ones. This will accomplish 75% of your work for you.
 

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Lol, it occurs to me that this forum has gone from one extreme to another. From
"The secret of the DJ is that he loves women"
to
"The secret of the DJ is that he hates women".
 

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Lol, it occurs to me that this forum has gone from one extreme to another. From
"The secret of the DJ is that he loves women"
to
"The secret of the DJ is that he hates women".
The secret of the DJ is he loves himself and he is not desperate.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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The way it works by nature is that the hunter hunts around, the prey shows a feminine sign of weakness or submission, and the game is on. This is nature and this will never change. I advise men to forget about approaching women who haven't shown interest. All this does is makes you feel like a failure and makes it appear to you that halfway decent women are scarce.
I always find this funny - it seems pretty delusional to me to think of yourself as a "hunter" of prey who signal that they want you to approach. That means the "prey" is actually either an ambush predator/parasite in camouflage/aggressive mimicry, or at best a symbiont and certainly no prey. Especially when you take into account that a normal use of those signals in for example a club is to benefit the woman at the expense of the man's time/effort/resources, it looks more like the man is prey.
 
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I always find this funny - it seems pretty delusional to me to think of yourself as a "hunter" of prey who signal that they want you to approach. That means the "prey" is actually either an ambush predator/parasite in camouflage/aggressive mimicry, or at best a symbiont and certainly no prey. Especially when you take into account that a normal use of those signals in for example a club is to benefit the woman at the expense of the man's time/effort/resources, it looks more like the man is prey.
imagine an animal that feeds on parasites that like to feed on them
 

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Lol, it occurs to me that this forum has gone from one extreme to another. From
"The secret of the DJ is that he loves women"
to
"The secret of the DJ is that he hates women".
Put those in the middle and go with "The secret of the DJ is that he understands women" . but let's face it. The more you learn about them the more difficult it becomes to like them. Right?
 

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The more you learn about them the more difficult it becomes to like them. Right?
I haven't thought of women as being loyal since my early 20s, so I really haven't changed my opinion of them much. It's the old don't hate a lion for acting like a lion thing. Women have their good points, I enjoy their company.
 

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I always find this funny - it seems pretty delusional to me to think of yourself as a "hunter" of prey who signal that they want you to approach. That means the "prey" is actually either an ambush predator/parasite in camouflage/aggressive mimicry, or at best a symbiont and certainly no prey. Especially when you take into account that a normal use of those signals in for example a club is to benefit the woman at the expense of the man's time/effort/resources, it looks more like the man is prey.
It's a simplified metaphor. That should be obvious. It is a game.

Men hunt and usually men initiate. Wise is the man who sets his sites on women who are friendly to him. Many men go after women who are either openly hostile or neutral. They are taught that good "game" will turn her around. This is counter-productive and causes frustration. Such women are undeserving of his attention.

Don't take it so literally.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Put those in the middle and go with "The secret of the DJ is that he understands women" . but let's face it. The more you learn about them the more difficult it becomes to like them. Right?
As a whole, yes, but also the more you understand them, the easier it is to separate the wheat from the chaff.
 

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It's a simplified metaphor. That should be obvious. It is a game.

Men hunt and usually men initiate. Wise is the man who sets his sites on women who are friendly to him. Many men go after women who are either openly hostile or neutral. They are taught that good "game" will turn her around. This is counter-productive and causes frustration. Such women are undeserving of his attention.

Don't take it so literally.
This is so true.

Its really desperate to chase people who don't naturally like you.
 

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It's a simplified metaphor. That should be obvious. It is a game.

Men hunt and usually men initiate. Wise is the man who sets his sites on women who are friendly to him. Many men go after women who are either openly hostile or neutral. They are taught that good "game" will turn her around. This is counter-productive and causes frustration. Such women are undeserving of his attention.

Don't take it so literally.
a fan of love at first sight huh?
 

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Not in the least. What in my history of writing here on SS would lead anyone to think I believe in love at first sight?
 

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a fan of love at first sight huh?
I wonder about this. Eye contact can create a very powerful connection with someone, I've done it a few times in my life before and have had it done to me as well. Absolute mindfvckery right there and it amazes me to no end because you KNOW that the other person felt the same way about you. Maybe not 'love' at first sight. However, there is definitely SOMETHING at first sight, and sometimes it just may be 'love'.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I wonder about this. Eye contact can create a very powerful connection with someone, I've done it a few times in my life before and have had it done to me as well. Absolute mindfvckery right there and it amazes me to no end because you KNOW that the other person felt the same way about you. Maybe not 'love' at first sight. However, there is definitely SOMETHING at first sight, and sometimes it just may be 'love'.
Its called sexual tension.
 

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Its called sexual tension.
No not sexual tension. There is a specific reason why I said 'someone' and not 'women'. You can form a brotherly bond with another GUY too. I'm not gay so I would not call that sexual tension at that point.
 

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No not sexual tension. There is a specific reason why I said 'someone' and not 'women'. You can form a brotherly bond with another GUY too. I'm not gay so I would not call that sexual tension at that point.
I know what you mean.

Last night at a super bowl party this girl's and I's eyes met. I've locked eyes with women when it was just pure sexual lust on both sides. But this was more than this. Our eyes locked and our mouths opened. She ended up sitting right next to me later in the night and we chatted each other up a bit. If she wasn't willing to hang out around so many guys I would have stayed interested.

Times like those are rare.
 

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I know what you mean.

Last night at a super bowl party this girl's and I's eyes met. I've locked eyes with women when it was just pure sexual lust on both sides. But this was more than this. Our eyes locked and our mouths opened. She ended up sitting right next to me later in the night and we chatted each other up a bit. If she wasn't willing to hang out around so many guys I would have stayed interested.

Times like those are rare.
They are indeed.
 

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I conversed with a teacher I banged, she told me how little money means to her, (since I am a student) but the same evening she managed to talk about how she dated an older guy with a lot of money when she was younger and now she desperately wants to buy a bigger apartment. Oh women.
She's maybe just being nice to you. Like saying she doesn't mind if you don't have a big c0ck if you don't.... but then lets it slip how she rode the c0ck carousel a lot when she was younger! :)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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