"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Buy my plate a gift?

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sazc said:
yep, you get her a gift, any kind of a gift, and shes going to read into that.
Text her a happy birthday and tell her you and she should grab dinner and drinks sometime to celebrate. Don't make a specific date about it in the opening text. if you don't want her to read into it, let her be the one who actually sets the date.
You've acknowledged casually and in a non committal way.

Then take her to a reasonable restaurant ($40-$50 dinner) and some drinks. Then go plate.

Be careful with this one. If she's catching feelings it's not cool to lead her on. That's what ends up damaging females for the next dude.
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This sounds like a good route
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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bigneil said:
Reasonable gifts for birthday of girl you had sex with (choose one).

1) Take her to dinner - search Yelp for top ten restaurants in your area and choose $$ (versus $$$ or $$$$).
2) Bottle of memorable wine (a $20 white - I recommend La Crema Pinot Gris, or a $30+ red - I recommend Cabernet Sauvignon from Napa).
3) A real Silver dollar (costs about $25).

Never give expensive gifts until 6 months or so, and even then, never more than a few hundred IMO.
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Good ideas! Never thought about a silver dollar. How do you explain that to a 20-something? They probably think it's a quarter...

Wine is good too. lots of wine options here in the Bay Area
 
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Roober said:
Good ideas! Never thought about a silver dollar. How do you explain that to a 20-something? They probably think it's a quarter...

Wine is good too. lots of wine options here in the Bay Area
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Tell them that one silver dollar will feed your family for a week during a crisis, and that it's a good luck charm, and that it purifies water.
 
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