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BlueAlpha1
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I love all of this. Great stuff guys. This is some TERRIBLE advice.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
speed dawg
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I could list a ton. Tenacity's #2 is a big one. Just work hard is another (without working smart). I don't know that most of mine would necessarily be 'bad' advice, it's just not the secret sauce. Nobody ever gives that out, namely because most people succeed due to luck. Some set of fortunate circumstances led to them getting their break. Of course, you have to have your eyes open to see your break.
taiyuu_otoko
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1. Press the yo
2. This rally CAN'T last any longer. I'd short it if I were you...
3. Don't worry, nobody will ever know.
2. This rally CAN'T last any longer. I'd short it if I were you...
3. Don't worry, nobody will ever know.
penkitten
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That wasn't advice, it was a direct threat.
daddymonsterpoodle
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"trust me. your secret is safe with me. "
"Better the devil you know"
"Just tell her how you feel"
"a good relationship is built on equality. " (I appreciate that there are people who will disagree with this).
"don't take chances. play it safe and think about it for a while"
"buy a renault. They are great cars. "
"take your time before you start dating. "
"Better the devil you know"
"Just tell her how you feel"
"a good relationship is built on equality. " (I appreciate that there are people who will disagree with this).
"don't take chances. play it safe and think about it for a while"
"buy a renault. They are great cars. "
"take your time before you start dating. "
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
wifehunter
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"Tell her how you feel."
Mike32ct
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^This. Even if that ideal person for you DOES exist, what is the probability that you will meet that person? Probably very low.
wifehunter
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Yes, especially in the short term.
dustmuffin
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Yep it was. I think most of my childhood I spent avoiding the wrath of my crazy parents. I did learn something though. How not to treat my children.
Mike32ct
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1. "You have to show how sweet you are. Bring a rose to the first date."
I have to admit, I never actually tried this because the thought made me gag.
2. "Women go more by what they hear than what they see."
And if she doesn't see Chad, her hearing may not work so well.
3. "You'll only last a few seconds your first time."
I went longer than the energizer bunny because I was so nervous that I couldn't "finish" at all.
4. "It's ok to have grey hair at 21. It's distinguished."
I dyed that shyte at 27 and scored at 28.
5. "Take a dance class. Women outnumber men."
The secret is out. It's a sausage fest.
6. "Women love a guy that is handy around the house."
Only your guy friends will enjoy discussing electrical, plumbing, and carpentry. Women have zero interest in that stuff.
7. "Go out on Valentine's Day. Plenty of desperate women are out."
Besides the couples, you'll just see dudes who believe the above lol.
8. "Have female friends. They will hook you up."
Let's get this straight... Some female friend who has you in friendzone (because you aren't a Chad) is going to think you are "perfect" for her gf? Please put down the crack pipe lol.
9. "Pet this dog/cat. He's friendly."
It's gonna bite you.
10. "Buy an old house. These new houses aren't well built."
It will be non-stop repairs. Refer to #6.
I have to admit, I never actually tried this because the thought made me gag.
2. "Women go more by what they hear than what they see."
And if she doesn't see Chad, her hearing may not work so well.
3. "You'll only last a few seconds your first time."
I went longer than the energizer bunny because I was so nervous that I couldn't "finish" at all.
4. "It's ok to have grey hair at 21. It's distinguished."
I dyed that shyte at 27 and scored at 28.
5. "Take a dance class. Women outnumber men."
The secret is out. It's a sausage fest.
6. "Women love a guy that is handy around the house."
Only your guy friends will enjoy discussing electrical, plumbing, and carpentry. Women have zero interest in that stuff.
7. "Go out on Valentine's Day. Plenty of desperate women are out."
Besides the couples, you'll just see dudes who believe the above lol.
8. "Have female friends. They will hook you up."
Let's get this straight... Some female friend who has you in friendzone (because you aren't a Chad) is going to think you are "perfect" for her gf? Please put down the crack pipe lol.
9. "Pet this dog/cat. He's friendly."
It's gonna bite you.
10. "Buy an old house. These new houses aren't well built."
It will be non-stop repairs. Refer to #6.
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Mike32ct
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Fair enough. It can happen in the long term. No guarantee, but it's worth it for us to try.
wifehunter
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Providence
wifehunter
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Persisting could also mean chasing.
Roober
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My cousin recently told me... "you need to talk to this girl and tell her you have kids now. Don't leave her in the dark."
Mind you this is a woman I just had second date with last night... I will bring up kids when she asks...
Mind you this is a woman I just had second date with last night... I will bring up kids when she asks...
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
dustmuffin
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Women love a chump who will do repairs to their abode free or charge on the pretense they might get s ex. Newsflash. ...work away you are not getting any.
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That's the some solid advice right there. You don't score any points for doing repairs or hanging stuff on walls for women. There are 6 other dudes in her contact list that are ready and willing to come over and help her. Let them do it and get nothing from it. Nice guys finish last here! If it doesn't make the vagina tingle, don't waste your time.
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BlueAlpha1
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Yeah, I love that one about the "universe". That's become a buzz word for this new age "spirituality" that is a watered down religion which is essentially summed up as "good things come to those who wait".
No, they don't. Not unless you go take them yourself.
"It does not matter what people think of you, as long as you are happy" by a parent
Yer right, not only is this statement very self-centered and selfish it is also wrong, to get ahead in any field of life the opinion of your peers matters a great deal.
Take a co-worker of mine, she is extremly happy in her self, smug even. She is also obese, lazy, useless at her job and annoys the hell out of everyone around her, but what the hell as long as she is happy.. subjective satisfaction without objective evidence is a fools paradise.
Also it ignores the real and very valuable way to shape others views of you, according to how you want them to be shaped.
Yer right, not only is this statement very self-centered and selfish it is also wrong, to get ahead in any field of life the opinion of your peers matters a great deal.
Take a co-worker of mine, she is extremly happy in her self, smug even. She is also obese, lazy, useless at her job and annoys the hell out of everyone around her, but what the hell as long as she is happy.. subjective satisfaction without objective evidence is a fools paradise.
Also it ignores the real and very valuable way to shape others views of you, according to how you want them to be shaped.
daddymonsterpoodle
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"live each day as if it was your last"
On my last day on earth I am not going to worry about getting to work on time, paying bills and all that tedious sh-t. Screw that. I am gonna f-ck my girlfriend and pay a hooker to come and swallow man juice all day while I drink single malt and listen to hardcore.
"good things come to those who wait" see also "karma".
Nope. God things come to those who work for them and have the courage to take risks.
"save your money"
Ha! Bank accounts don't even keep up with inflation rates.
"women love poetry"
Really! My experience is writing poetry for women makes you look like a try hard emo. What women like is a confident masculine male who will f-ck their brains out.
"women love flowers"
Once, maybe at best. After that it just makes you look as if you have no imagination.
"you should take her to the movies"
The advice that every parent gives teenage sons. Nope, movie dates are just awkward and bad.
On my last day on earth I am not going to worry about getting to work on time, paying bills and all that tedious sh-t. Screw that. I am gonna f-ck my girlfriend and pay a hooker to come and swallow man juice all day while I drink single malt and listen to hardcore.
"good things come to those who wait" see also "karma".
Nope. God things come to those who work for them and have the courage to take risks.
"save your money"
Ha! Bank accounts don't even keep up with inflation rates.
"women love poetry"
Really! My experience is writing poetry for women makes you look like a try hard emo. What women like is a confident masculine male who will f-ck their brains out.
"women love flowers"
Once, maybe at best. After that it just makes you look as if you have no imagination.
"you should take her to the movies"
The advice that every parent gives teenage sons. Nope, movie dates are just awkward and bad.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.