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Feedback on game/strategy? LJBF before the first date????

Shift

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Been a long time since I've been here. Progress continues to be made. The last time I was on I had approach anxiety like a mother****er and had only had sex with one woman. Now my approach anxiety is gone and I've laid a few more, but I still think I have a lot of room for improvement. Certainly not a oneitis here, but here is a recent pursuit of a girl:

I started my first year of college 3 weeks ago at the local community college. One of my classes is a twice weekly evening class. Notice this cute little HB8 smiling at me from across the room on the second day. Normally she sits at a table right behind me but was working on a computer.

Next day of class. She's sitting at the table behind me, and I overhear another girl talking to her about an online psychology class to her. I happened to be taking the same class, so I take this as a good spot to enter the conversation. We chat about classes and HB8 is also taking a psych class. I introduce myself to both of them and get their names.

Class day 4: Class is moved to a different room, I see HB8 sitting alone and I sit right beside her. I chat her up with real casual stuff like majors and where we're both from, etc. with the limited time I have in between the lecture. On the way out of class, I stop her, tell her we should get coffee sometime, and she agrees. She gives me her number. I ask her if she's free this weekend and she says she's going back to her hometown. I text her when I get home:

9/29 8:50 PM Me: Hey, it's that cool guy Shift from your English class ;). Hope you have fun in [hometown]!
9/30 9:59 AM Her:Have fun over there too! Where do you work?
10:03 AM Me: I work for [company] in [town]
5:27 PM Her: Oh ok. Cool!

10/2 11:07 AM Me: So what's your class schedule like?
2:33PM Her: On Tuesday and Thursday I have classes basically the whole day
3:56 PM Me: Okay. Do you have any plans tomorrow around 5 or 6?
5:33 PM Her: Sorry, I'm tied up tomorrow and Wednesday!
7:54 PM Me: Darn, I knew I should have joined the boy scouts. Maybe I would know how to untie you then, hope it's not too complex of a knot lol


Class day 5. HB8 wasn't in class. Girl who was talking to her day 3(older lady, single mom, about 35, maybe a 6) approaches me before class and asks me for help with a psych assignment. I haven't done this assignment yet, so I tell her I'll get back to her on it. I sit next to her in class and we chat for a bit. She's dropping some major IOIs and doesn't seem to want to leave the conversation as we walk back to our cars. I don't go for anything though because I'm not interested.

Class day 6 (a thursday). HB8 is there but I sit next to single mom again because I promised I would help her with the assignment. We joke and flirt a little bit and I think HB8 takes notice. I leave class early because I have **** to do. Around the time class gets out HB8 shoots me a text:

10/6 8:18 PM Her: I've been super busy lately moving in and whole lot of stuff X(. Didn't want you to think I'd been ignoring you or something!
8:56 PM Me: No worries, I've been pretty busy too. Just let me know when you have some free time and we can work out a plan from there.

10/7 1:43 PM Her: Is it cool if we're just friends? :)
5:06 PM Me: Lol I'm only asking you on a date, it's not like I asked you to be my girlfriend or something [laugh emoji]

10/9 9:27 PM Her: I mean I think it would be better if we were just friends and not go on a date. Maybe you feel the same way bc seemed like you kinda wanted to ignore me on Thursday?
11:13 PM Me: I wasn't trying to ignore you, [single mom] had some questions on a psych assignment Tues and I told her I would get back to her. I'd like to take you out, but I don't wanna pressure you into anything, so it's cool. Lemme know if you change your mind though.

10/10 10:34 AM Her: Oh! Haha. That's nice of you! Ok, will do!

And that brings us to now. I feel like she kinda got jealous when I sat next to single mom and the LJBF thing was a **** test, so I acted accordingly. Tomorrow night is the next day of class. Critiques and suggestions? Just kinda baffled that I was hit with the LJBF before the first date, never happened to me before.

P.S. I'm not solely focused on this girl, still approaching others and went on a date yesterday with another chick. Other details: I'm 22, this chick is about 19. I work full time in addition to school part time. She only has school full time and is not currently working.
 

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When a woman is up front with you and tells you she isn't interested, thank her for being honest because most women aren't and stop wasting your time.

Once again. Perfect example of how guys would rather spend 95% of their time and effort trying to convince an uninterested woman to be more interested rather than spending that time finding new women who ARE interested.

OP, this isn't some ploy on her part, she simply isn't interested.

If you still want to try just agree with her that of course you are just friends and then escalate in date like it never happened. 99% chance it won't go anywhere however.
 

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Don't get me wrong here, I know it's all about the numbers. I approach about a dozen women per week. This chick has maybe 2-3% of my effort. I was just looking for some feedback on technique because I feel like my close rate could be higher. Maybe ****ing about 1% of approaches at this point. This was just a recent example.
 

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Don't get me wrong here, I know it's all about the numbers. I approach about a dozen women per week. This chick has maybe 2-3% of my effort. I was just looking for some feedback on technique because I feel like my close rate could be higher. Maybe ****ing about 1% of approaches at this point. This was just a recent example.
I used to do more OLD and found if I messaged 20 women I'd probably end up meeting 6 of them and out of those 6 I'd probably end up fvcking 2 or 3.

Again, if you want to pursue it, tell her of course you are friends and then set up the date. Ignore the friends part in date like you never heard it or talked about it.
 

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Again, if you want to pursue it, tell her of course you are friends and then set up the date. Ignore the friends part in date like you never heard it or talked about it.
Fair enough, I'll report back with feedback if I decide to take this one any further. Might just hit up this other HB8 in class instead. ;)
 
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