"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ex dumped me 3 times during a period of 3,5 years, we dated all together for 2 years. I got her back twice wrongly by breaking NC. Last time after 5 months NC, she was the one contacting me after she heard I spoke to one of our mutual friends. We hangout 2 months, had sex, and agreed being friends with benefits.

Couple of weeks ago I called her, she said she started seeing someone couple of days ago so no more ****ing around and is looking for a relationship and real love (she is a single mom) and knows already with me is only sex because she doesn't love me. Im ok just with sex even though I have some feelings. She said she would call if it wouldn't work out with this new guy or if in the future she would be single to resume friends with benefits. She also said it would feel weird to talk to me while she is seeing someone, so for me not to call her. I said ok... Should I go NC forever? Or maybe check in on her once a month or so to check if she is single?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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C'mon man have some fuking self respect .. delete her number and delete/block her from everything .. and ask yourself why you are accepting this behaviour from her because this is your problem
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Word of advise: she knows you're wrapped around her pinky finger and wants it that way. If these new romances don't work out she can always fall back on you. Go out and date, but be ready for her to make a charge at you when she finds out you're seeing other people. She won't want to lose her grip on you. Be prepared to say "I'm not in love with you" and kick this b1tch to the curb. ASAP!

Come on man...get your balls back!
 

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Ex dumped me 3 times during a period of 3,5 years, we dated all together for 2 years. I got her back twice wrongly by breaking NC. Last time after 5 months NC, she was the one contacting me after she heard I spoke to one of our mutual friends. We hangout 2 months, had sex, and agreed being friends with benefits.

Couple of weeks ago I called her, she said she started seeing someone couple of days ago so no more ****ing around and is looking for a relationship and real love (she is a single mom) and knows already with me is only sex because she doesn't love me. Im ok just with sex even though I have some feelings. She said she would call if it wouldn't work out with this new guy or if in the future she would be single to resume friends with benefits. She also said it would feel weird to talk to me while she is seeing someone, so for me not to call her. I said ok... Should I go NC forever? Or maybe check in on her once a month or so to check if she is single?
You are her plan b. She basicslly told you in her women speak that you're to be her beta play toy on the shelf until she feels the need to pull you down and play with.

Why did you give her a chancr to dump you a second time or even a 3rd time. You basically taught this girl that she owns you. She is the alpha and you are the beta.

Walk away. No contact. Have nothing to do with her ever again. She will ignore you while smashing other guys, then when the well runs dry call you. Basically this last stint of calling you friends with benefits then telling you the ****king is over was her dumping you for a 4th time.

Stop this merry go round. Man up. Walk away from her for good.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'd drop her based on just her arrogance alone. When I'm done f-ing this guy, I'll call you? Screw that. Adios to her. I continually get amazed at the crap they pull and then I realize that they do it because so many men allow them to
 

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Sounds like good advice..thanks guys
 

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You're nothing but a tool she can exploit at her will.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I hear you...I doubt she will contact anyways...If she calls I will probably bang her...
I gave some thought in reaching out every 2 months or so to see if she is single again and resume FWB but I guess that would be weak? If she wanna **** she will call right?

I was weak, Last time she reached out after 5 months NC, I asked for coffee, she said she sees no point...then I said sex? She said ok...And we slept couple of times but she said she would continue looking for another guy because she wants to find love. Eventually she met someone 2 months later. I told her to call me if things wouldn't workout with the new guy and she said she knows what I have to offer and want from her and she could possible call to be FWB if she would be single sometime...I know i was pathetic...
 

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I hear you...I doubt she will contact anyways...If she calls I will probably bang her...
I gave some thought in reaching out every 2 months or so to see if she is single again and resume FWB but I guess that would be weak? If she wanna **** she will call right?

I was weak, Last time she reached out after 5 months NC, I asked for coffee, she said she sees no point...then I said sex? She said ok...And we slept couple of times but she said she would continue looking for another guy because she wants to find love. Eventually she met someone 2 months later. I told her to call me if things wouldn't workout with the new guy and she said she knows what I have to offer and want from her and she could possible call to be FWB if she would be single sometime...I know i was pathetic...
You've got the man's interest level (yours on one side) and the woman's interest level on the other....

Probably one of the biggest mistakes the average guy on the street makes with women is that he is too focused on HIS INTEREST LEVEL and
not paying enough attention to HER INTEREST LEVEL.....

When your interest level is higher than hers she picks up on this and knows instinctively that HAS THE LOWER INTEREST HAS THE POWER IN THE RELATIONSHIP.......

As a man, you simply must maintain your interest level at a lower level than hers. Not just to have the power but because women love differently than men. A woman's love is based on adoration and respect and it's difficult to respect and adore someone who is fawning all over you (which is what men do when their interest level is through the roof.)

Learn self control and learn the art of detachment to maintain your interest level at a healthy level.

Now, as for your situation. You're displaying to her that you need her more than she needs you. You have no power in this relationship. Going from relationship to fwb is muddying the waters. Better to make a clean break. If a woman breaks off the relationship once it means that her interest level must be at an incredibly low level. Think about it: would you break up with someone if you had high interest level. Once she says it's over once, the logical thing to do would be never to look back. Why? because to go back to someone with low interest level is setting yourself up to be dumped again. Which is exactly what happened in your case and happens constantly.

Develop the ability to say NO. ENOUGH.

Demand more from life.

She knows you are at her beck and call. If she contacts you, then "you will bang her". Show some self control and self respect.

Learn to walk away from a bad deal.
 

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I agree, if you're not happy with the situation. Best thing to do is walk away.
 

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You've got the man's interest level (yours on one side) and the woman's interest level on the other....

Probably one of the biggest mistakes the average guy on the street makes with women is that he is too focused on HIS INTEREST LEVEL and
not paying enough attention to HER INTEREST LEVEL.....

When your interest level is higher than hers she picks up on this and knows instinctively that HAS THE LOWER INTEREST HAS THE POWER IN THE RELATIONSHIP.......

As a man, you simply must maintain your interest level at a lower level than hers. Not just to have the power but because women love differently than men. A woman's love is based on adoration and respect and it's difficult to respect and adore someone who is fawning all over you (which is what men do when their interest level is through the roof.)

Learn self control and learn the art of detachment to maintain your interest level at a healthy level.

Now, as for your situation. You're displaying to her that you need her more than she needs you. You have no power in this relationship. Going from relationship to fwb is muddying the waters. Better to make a clean break. If a woman breaks off the relationship once it means that her interest level must be at an incredibly low level. Think about it: would you break up with someone if you had high interest level. Once she says it's over once, the logical thing to do would be never to look back. Why? because to go back to someone with low interest level is setting yourself up to be dumped again. Which is exactly what happened in your case and happens constantly.

Develop the ability to say NO. ENOUGH.

Demand more from life.

She knows you are at her beck and call. If she contacts you, then "you will bang her". Show some self control and self respect.

Learn to walk away from a bad deal.
What do I do in this particular situation then? No contact until she calls and bang her? If I do then, continue to wait she calls for more sex and never initiate?

Or should I just tell her it's all or nothing for a relationship?
 

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"Ex dumped me 3 times during a period of 3,5 years,"


WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD DO?
I know, but she said we could be **** buddies it she wasn't dating anyone.. Right now she is seeing someone, that's what she told me a month ago. It's been NC since..
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You really hate yourself don't you? You have absolutely no self-respect , no self-esteem, you don't value your self at all.

You wait like a stray dog at a single mother's door, after she has treated you like schitt, begging, for her to toss you a scrap.

Laughable.
I got u man...Problem is if she texts me in few months for sex I wont be able to not respond...thats the problem...I will probably end up banging her...
To be honest during the 2 months in the summer we were FWB, it was pretty much me texting her every 2 weeks for sex and she never really initiated...i found myself being too intensive around her pressuring her to meet more for sex and she said I dont know how to take things casually...eventually she met this guy anyways few days later and dropped me...

Anyways, thanks for the replies...
 

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I can't judge because I've been where you are and in fact I'm kind of there now, except that I have 4 months of NC under my belt. It's tough when they reach out to you, but I've survived 3 attempts by her to touch base, so there is that. You gotta be strong and get some other women going in order to better and more quickly forget about her.
 

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I guess its time to one way trip to North Carolina...
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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