"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to not feel ****ty as a 28 year old virgin

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I think I gotta do it. I have to join the military to survive. Its the only way. That means basically a 4 year vow of chastity.

When I get out I will be about 28, and still a virgin. I got no money to "just pay for it" let alone the bail if I get stung. How can I not completely hate myself? And could I still attract 19 year old girls?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Cant you just bang one of those drunk AF girls? There is alot of em in america..goddame it i wish if i live in the west..the amount of possibilties.
On the hate yourself part..the idea of the DJ is to love yourself and think of yourself as atrophy then others will think as well. I suggest you work on your inner game.(im still a noob tho)
 

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And could I still attract 19 year old girls?
You can attract 19 year old girls well into your thirties.

Go in the army, get laid however you can when you get out. Then work on building a life.

Every year they'll be a new graduating class of 19 y/o that you can game.

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Be careful of making the mistake of falling in love with the first girl you lay. You could be halfway through military, get laid and then get married. Many girls like to be married to a military man. If you join the service, commit to NOT committing to any girl until you're out.
 
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You can attract 19 year old girls well into your thirties.

Go in the army, get laid however you can when you get out. Then work on building a life.

Every year they'll be a new graduating class of 19 y/o that you can game.

EDIT

Be careful of making the mistake of falling in love with the first girl you lay. You could be halfway through military, get laid and then get married. Many girls like to be married to a military man. If you join the service, commit to NOT committing to any girl until you're out.
Wait...you are implying I could meet women while in the military...

How?
 

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My cousin hooked up with a girl in his platoon when he was in the Army, which would have been against the rules, except they got married. When that happens, instead of kicking you out for getting laid, they give you nicer housing and raise your pay. He and the girl got divorced after their time in the Army was finished.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Epicwinguy

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My cousin hooked up with a girl in his platoon when he was in the Army, which would have been against the rules, except they got married. When that happens, instead of kicking you out for getting laid, they give you nicer housing and raise your pay. He and the girl got divorced after their time in the Army was finished.
Woah having extra-marital sex gets you kicked out?
 

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Depends on where you're stationed. Never been in myself but unless they've got you locked in a bunker in Syria chances are you'll time occassional weekends off, etc.

Some ladies like to snag military guys cause of the bennies, assuming you'll be a lifer.

OTOH, it's highly likely they'll be hookers wherever you are stationed, so you can lose your V card there, if it's that important.

Bottom line is don't worry.

A motivated member that's close to a pocketful of money has a way of finding some willing vag.
 

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I was a virgin till 26. Now I think I've been with around 19-22 girls in 3 years, not sure on the #. Are you anywhere near attractive? Online would be easy for you maybe. Find a girl online and start chatting. Honestly I've gotten about half those lays from text game. If you want help, let me know dude, I'd be much obliged.
 

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Depends on where you're stationed. Never been in myself but unless they've got you locked in a bunker in Syria chances are you'll time occassional weekends off, etc.

Some ladies like to snag military guys cause of the bennies, assuming you'll be a lifer.

OTOH, it's highly likely they'll be hookers wherever you are stationed, so you can lose your V card there, if it's that important.

Bottom line is don't worry.

A motivated member that's close to a pocketful of money has a way of finding some willing vag.
Would there be hookers in the middle east if they send me there? Also, I'm thinking I'll do the air force or navy
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Would there be hookers in the middle east if they send me there? Also, I'm thinking I'll do the air force or navy
It would be extremely unlikely to not have access to hookers if you're in the military for a couple of years.
 

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I think I gotta do it. I have to join the military to survive. Its the only way. That means basically a 4 year vow of chastity.

When I get out I will be about 28, and still a virgin. I got no money to "just pay for it" let alone the bail if I get stung. How can I not completely hate myself? And could I still attract 19 year old girls?
As a guy that didn't have sex until 28, I would avoid waiting that long at all cost. I wouldn't go the hooker route though. Try online. Try hitting a local bar after you're in the military. Try anything, but paying for it should be a last resort because I don't think it'll make you feel any better.
 

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I think I gotta do it. I have to join the military to survive. Its the only way. That means basically a 4 year vow of chastity.

When I get out I will be about 28, and still a virgin. I got no money to "just pay for it" let alone the bail if I get stung. How can I not completely hate myself? And could I still attract 19 year old girls?
Bro your credibility crashed and burned with the last sentence.

Just get a buddy to hook you up. Go get a job. Go volunteer. Go talk to women. There are pretty girls out there that will sleep with you for less than the cost of an alcoholic drink. It's not PhD work bro. :rolleyes:
 

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A friend of mine is 26 and still a virgin. His not an ugly dude just a bit awkward, but his learning from his mistakes and now trying to better himself, is now starting his own business while working 2 other jobs part time and is finding that adding value to yourself helps more then trying to get value out of chasing women.

His seeing 3 girls at the moment who love the fact their dating a "business" man haha
 

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lol military guys get the most puss. Why is it that every military guy I've ever met had a wife or gf even when they were deployed for months at a time?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This is a lie. You are not a Virgin. Germans/Bolshevik groups still exist. Haven't you stayed in Vegas Before? Haha. Watch The Hangover
 

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This is a lie. You are not a Virgin. Germans/Bolshevik groups still exist. Haven't you stayed in Vegas Before? Haha. Watch The Hangover
Nah I'm a major playa its all a conspiracy
 

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Why are you projecting that you will be a virgin at 28?

Every guy I know in the army has got laid. Getting yourself out there as per your other thread is the way to lose your virginity. You feel awkward at first but you have started on an epic journey, enjoy every step!
 
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