"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
What are the differences between short term game and long term game?
- Thread starter El Payaso
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
CuddleJunkie
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Alpha you have to be in both, the difference striving in how much control of the girl you decide to take. In STR, you just look for overtaking her physically, on LTR, you want to own her physically, mentally, emotionally, socially...depending on how far you are into compromise. The more comprise you give to her, the more control she should gave up to you.
Serenity
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Long-term: Genuinely be too good to lose.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Serenity
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If you gotta put up with crap in a long term relationship, then clearly you've picked a bad chick. Being financially secure (aka having money) is generally a good idea with or without a woman. If the woman you've picked for long term relationship depends on your money, then again you've clearly picked a bad chick.
The long term game is to make good decisions. Woman depends on others gain? Bad decision. Woman full of sh!t? Bad decision. Woman does nice things? Good decision. Woman shows stability over time? Good decision. Woman has a job and does not depend financially on a man? Good decision (this will save you the money issue).
Short term game is easy, you don't have to even consider anything except looks. Getting a woman off is simple, just build up gradually and fvck her brains out when you get to it. Works on every damn one of them. Muscles might attract the occasional bimbo, but I'd say charm is way more powerful and universally effective. Your social status can be faked as part of your game, works for short term. Will not work for long term as they will eventually find out.
Social status matters more for long term than short term. Why would a woman give a damn about a guys social status if he's just one of their dildos which they can toss out at any time? It would matter more for long term as they don't want to feel ashamed showing off the guy they're fvcking to friends and family.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
The short game has lot of time constraints and pressure to escalate etc. Because of the speed, you also risk getting involved with someone who is found out to be unfriendly. Seduction and sex is the goal.
The long game is more relaxed, and focused on getting to know the other person. And to quote Doc Love... "you can't go too slow, when it comes to romance." Also, a deep connection is more important here. Sex will happen, but is a small part of a larger picture. You get to expirience the other person's cuts, scrapes, pimples, stinky smells, good days and bad days etc. (Also, bad hair days.. lol!!!) Attachment, companionship , and intimacy are the goal. It's more like family vs the short game's... wham bam thank you ma'am.
MrWood
Master Don Juan
man: "I think foo bar"
woman: "I feel bar foo"
you have no need to tell a woman anything prefaced with "I feel..." or "you make me feel"
are you a woman?
do logical "men" feel about how to fix a transmission? No, we THINK about it, how, tools, procedure.
Women FEEL about things, they don't think.
We as men, FEEL love with a woman in a LTR, for your children, parents, perhaps your dog, and you can FEEL betrayed and disrespected by women in a LTR or STR.
Anything else, basically, should be how YOU feel about yourself.
the only time you should be telling her about your feelings, is how you feel after taking her supplicating dat azz and dripping pvssy was after you told her to get on her knees... because you FEEL like a m0thafvckin TIGER
I hate the word 'game'. It's the worst word for seducing woman. If you have to 'game' short term to have sex, you are pretending to be someone you are not to get something you want. If you have 'game' long term for a LTR, again you are pretending to be someone you are not.
Be authentic, be the real you, be the person who gives society what they need and girls will come banging down your door begging for sex and marriage. If you have to use 'game' to get and keep girls, it may work for a little while but sooner or later they will see right thru the charade. All style and no substance gets old very fast.
I almost think the questions on here shouldn't be on how to attract woman, they should be about how to make society great. Girls will be a byproduct of it.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
Master Don Juan
I find this to be the opposite. In order to get a ONS (at least around these parts), it seems to me that you gotta be on top of your game at all times. You need to be alpha. But it an LTR she might think that you aren't as interested in her so you gotta give a little. How much depends on the specific girl and the situation, but you still gotta give a bit or else she'll think that you don't care about her at all. This is just throughout my experience anyways.
Not sure I'd agree that's the case. Being 'Mr. Right' for most girls isn't a great guy to be. And good chances are several of her short term flings were probably out of her league--and your ability to keep her long term interest is only due to your willingness to stick around.
My long term/short term is more or less the same--the only difference is how long she decides to stick around and, more importantly, the extent to which she proves herself worth seeing again.
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
Yep... that's it.