"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Currently I have been texting a girl with the intention of asking her out, but after 5-6 texts from each side she seems to be trying to keep conversation going by asking questions etc...

Good or bad?

I am worried i am becoming her text buddy..... actually i rarely text her so i am quite surprised.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Good, she has high enough interest in you to want to get your attention and learn more about you. You need to ask her out asap though. Ideally you want to limit text conversations and focus on going out on dates. Some guys can use a lot of conversation to build greater trust, comfort and attraction with a girl, but ideally it is better to limit it as things can go very wrong too.

Don't be unnatural about it though, at this point you've set a "norm" so cutting it all off, would stand out too much. Just take your time in replying sometimes and try to reduce the texting, unless you feel it is really productive and building rapport.
 
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Good, she has high enough interest in your to want to get your attention and learn more about you. You need to ask her out asap though. Ideally you want to limit text conversations and focus on going out on dates. Some guys can use a lot of conversation to build greater trust, comfort and attraction with a girl, but ideally it is better to limit it as things can go very wrong too.

Don't be unnatural about it though, at this point you've set a "norm" so cutting it all off, would stand out too much. Just take your time in replying sometimes and try to reduce the texting, unless you feel it is really production and building rapport.

Allright, but I have known this girl for a while and she is lets say partially from my social circle. I am also seeing her tomorrow at an event which she asked me if i am going to before, But it's not a date.

The thing is i never really tried to get to know her better or anything so ill give it a go and see what happens.

Also i initiated the conversation earlier today
 

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Common sense. If a girl asks questions means she wants to know more about you, and she has some interest in you. Don't blow it away. Don't spend too much time texting and talking on the phone with her. You should do most of that talking when you meet her in person.

Ask her to hang out and make your move.
 

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Move the conversation from the phone to a date to fvcking her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Texting is not for having conversations.. it is for setting up a time to meet face to face.

When you're spinning plates (like you should be) there is no time to text women for hours. If she isn't available to meet, then its on to the next plate. Stop wasting your own time.
 

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Gotta watch out, more time texting means she has your attention away from other stuff and can also shot test through text and catch you off guard. Take for example this one I got today..... Seriously women these days. Ask to hang out and they just Fick with you....
 

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Gotta watch out, more time texting means she has your attention away from other stuff and can also shot test through text and catch you off guard. Take for example this one I got today..... Seriously women these days. Ask to hang out and they just Fick with you....
What was odd is even though I was taking time to respond (between 10min and 30min) she was answering almost instantly (<5 min).

I am seeing her tonight, it's not a date but it will be enough to see how she acts in person and then take it farther.
 

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What was odd is even though I was taking time to respond (between 10min and 30min) she was answering almost instantly (<5 min).

I am seeing her tonight, it's not a date but it will be enough to see how she acts in person and then take it farther.
It is a date
 

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It´s obviously that the girl is into you, instead of worrying about the text game take advantage when you see her in person.

P.s: Don´t take the time to answer a girl, unconsciously you are giving her importance that she don´t deserve, just answer when you have free time and start doing some other stuff for your own good.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It is a date
Well not really because we are both going to a local event. In other words I'm going there with the boys, she is going with her friends.
 

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she seems to be trying to keep conversation going by asking questions etc...

Good or bad?
Good - she's interested
Bad - she's prob low quality

To pursue a guy so much that she hasn't met, she's likely naïve (immature) and doesn't have much going for her
 

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Good - she's interested
Bad - she's prob low quality

To pursue a guy so much that she hasn't met, she's likely naïve (immature) and doesn't have much going for her

She does know me, we have known each other for a couple of years.
Just never in a romantic way.
 

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A couple years? You're going to have be very keen on taking initiative if you want to get out of the friend zone

I am seeing her tonight, it's not a date but it will be enough to see how she acts in person and then take it farther.
It's not a date and you want to see if she likes you or makes a move... sounds like a good way to stay in the friend zone
 
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