dutchmaster
Senior Don Juan
so some guy you're playing games with is playing them back?
lol karma's a b1tch
lol karma's a b1tch
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Well d@ng, you told her. And I tried to explain to people who play too much that it actually feels much better and much more rewarding to "do people right". Still as males we need some amount of game, because telegraphing your intentions and being 100% transparent is not as sexually attractive. But still we don't have to play with people.
Simulating sex is what you do with friends you are not interested in sexually or vice versa? I am not buying that, or that it was done in innocence unaware that he was wanting sex with you and you were playing games about what he needed to do, if you were ever going to allow him to have sex with you.
I am not a fan of deceit. You can come back and repackage how innocent and unaware you were 10 years ago and still are 10 years later. Your actions and posts speak for themselves. I get that you got off on this man's attention and then withholding sex from him repeatedly, 10 years ago. I get that you just did that to him, just recently, 10 years later, and you got off on it too. Just like old times, you logged on here, to talk to other men about it and play innocent to them as well asking questions like you don't understand what's going on. It's sick.
Sure you cam suggest it was just another innocent misunderstanding about what friendship is vs what constitutes leading a man on and getting him hot thinking about sex, only to deny him, as your own little power trip over him. I see it clearly. Package it however you want, but the intent inside remains clear.
Go ahead and repackage it for another 500 posts and maybe somebody here will buy it and give you the attention you so desperately seek, under the costume of innocent women who has know idea she teases men only sexually to walk away leaving them unfulfilled, over and over and over. I think most men here are way too smart to fall for your ploy.
@MrWood assumed you've been in relationships in the last ten years. I am not so convinced. You don't consider others, so it seems much less likely to me, unless you just steamrolled them. Your history shows you prefer to simply toy with them. Have you been in long term relationships in the last ten years? How long? For the record, did you actually ever give up your virginity or have just perpetually just teased men with it? If you answered the previous questions, did you tell the truth or just lie to support your costume of innocence? I know will never know. Authenticity is a bit more obvious than you realize.
I don't enjoy calling other women out like this. Not at all. Women like you, are the reason there are so many bitter and disheartened men. They deserve better from women. I like to connect with women who share similar values and who admire and respect men, not a women who deceive and manipulate men to get her jollies, at their expense. I know, tell us all again, it was all an innocent mistake, or misunderstanding, then and now. A misunderstanding? I don't buy it.
Do you have BPD or another PD? Have you been diagnosed? Maybe it's time to get some help and stop hurting others? Whether you have harmed intentionally or not, with professional help, perhaps you can choose to live differently moving forward.
I understand some women have made great strides to remediate their BPD behavior, with newer treatment strategies and approaches. You have to want it and be committed to it, more than what you are doing now. I suspect it would be life that offered you far more true fulfillment than you've yet known. Consider checking it out.
You're a simple AW. Leave him alone.Yes, I read those posts too Live your Dream. I admit at the time I did have some clue what I thought was going on but there was a lot of back and forth. He never tried to kiss meso in my mind I did not have enough proof so I put a lot of value in his words and thought he found me unattractive, and only liked me as a friend or casual acquaintaince. I thought maybe he was enjoying the attention I was giving him at the time.Yes, you can point your finger at me all you want, but he knew how I felt about him at the time, and he did not want to tell me his intentions. Now I have decided to distance myself from him.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I also asked him why he just came over without telling me and he said that it was because I seemed upset and that he was worried and that he wouldn't do that again. I told him that he was the first married man to ever joke with me about having a girl friend and a wife. He actually had me back tracking feeling like maybe I was way off base about the situation.you dont lie to a woman that you have a wife AND a girlfriend
I dont care how much "frame" you have, and that you are the only one ever to missread him and overreact
*cough*cough*
you Misssy, are being bullsh1tted to on the highest order
Yes, something still seems very off about the whole thing and it is not sitting well with me.had you backtrack - forcing you to question YOURSELF on his "facts"
you overreacted - see above
do you fvcking get it? WE ARE WARNING YOU NOW TO GTF AWAY FROM THIS GUY
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
You're right. I can't justify it or use logic. He was this way with me 10 years ago; he would act one way and say something completely different. One of my female friends has repeatedly expressed concerns about his behavior over the years. Whenever I ever tried to call him out on anything he did he always had a reason and I always ended up second guessing myself.and yet you are still justifying it...
"not sitting well" "very off"
why are you even trying to rationalize this with any logic?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.