"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Lady asks me out but she has a bf.

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Plate asks me out for a drink and in the next text she says no kissing because she's in a new relationship. I respond with thanks but no thanks enjoy your new boyfriend. She asks if we can be friends and I say I wouldn't want my girl asking some dude out for drinks so no. Then she asks if we can still text. I said I don't think that's a good idea but you enjoy your relationship. Later!!!

My feeling was that she just wants to keep me on ice in the event it doesn't work out. But I'm not interested in that. But she just got out of a relationship in December. And a divorce earlier that year. Folks must love LTR''s.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You told her you weren't interested. Good for you.

If you like her, you may want to leave her with 'let me know if anything changes' and be done unless and until she let's you know she's unattached.
 
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"You can come to my place for a drink but can't promise I won't fvck you... Or if you are too much of a good girl, let me know when you've nexted your new boyfriend. *wink* *wink*".

They are so funny...

And she was married... my goodness...
And she's probably going to be a mother in a year or so...

"Yup, I just want you to be my friend because I feel soooooooooo not complete without you and 60 other guys in my life.".

You're probably happy you're not her new BF...
 
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Here is what would have happened... Either:
A. She is a skank and openly cheats on her boyfriend and was considering doing it with you. Certainly not the girl you want if you seek a girlfriend, though may be good for a fvck.
B. She was going to keep you around as her second option if her and her BF did not work out. Women do this sometimes.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I just had this with a plate a couple days ago. I found out she had a boyfriend. She started taking more and more about her problems. The last straw was her sending a snap when out with her boyfriend saying she was on a date and he was drunk. I ejected right away and told her to delete my number. It's not worth the drama for a girl shopping around on her boyfriend
 
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CMNILS87 said:
I just had this with a plate a couple days ago. I found out she had a boyfriend. She started taking more and more about her problems. The last straw was her sending a snap when out with her boyfriend saying she was on a date and he was drunk. I ejected right away and told her to delete my number. It's not worth the drama for a girl shopping around on her boyfriend
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Have you ever had the opportunity to get to know this woman carnally?
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second. are you guys banging these girls? If not they are not plates.
 
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CMNILS87 said:
I just had this with a plate a couple days ago. I found out she had a boyfriend. She started taking more and more
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second. are you guys banging these girls? If not they are not plates.
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I'd like to elaborate on this point, if you don't have an ongoing sexual relationship with her she isn't a plate.
 
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yes we had sex a couple times. I told her to delete my # and went NC
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She wasn't a plate dude. Having sex with a chick two times doesn't constitute having an "ongoing sexual relationship."
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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No i havent had sex with this woman. IMO however plate theory suggests that you have multiple women that ARE interested in you. The idea being that you have options in order to avoid oneitis. Oneitis can occur to guys that are having sex with a woman they are not exclusive with. But the overwhelming majority of instances of onetitis occurs with guys that aren't having sex with anybody.

So what do tell guys to do when they come here with oneitis. We tell them to get more dates ie more plates.

Having sex with multiple women is the goal.yes but it is not easy. In your 20''s it might be easier but as you get older most folks just have time for all the bullshyt it requires. So in my humbe opinion a plate is not a date but it can be someone you have developed a solid mutual sexual interest in yet not have had sex.
 
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