"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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For those in relationships , married or have a steady plate(s).
As men we always try to fix things or make sense out of things. Most of the time when a woman withholds sex , it's a test to see of you have other options.
In my last relationship ( I was young and stupid ) my ex would play this sex card and o would try to find out her reasons for saying this or try to understand or help with the bull chit problem she made up.

However, the proper way to deal with this situation is : " OK " ...nothing more nothing less.
Just say , " okay sure ". From then if you have other plates or side things feel free to bang them.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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For what its worth a woman should NEVER withhold sex in a committed LTR or marriage. I never did. It seemed to me idiotic to punish myself or remove something I really enjoyed from the relationship even if we were having a conflict.

Women who think this way (and I realize many do) are quite shortsighted. This behavior diminishes the physical intimacy/connection in a relationship and kills passion, which is dumb because the fastest way to drive a man to someone else is to withhold sex. That is MEN 101. I will advise my son to never stay in a relationship with a woman who is willing to withhold sex from him and from herself. I will advise my daughters never to withhold sex from the man they love. Show me a woman who withholds sex and I'll show you a woman who either doesn't value sex or who doesn't value you.
 

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Withholding sex on purpose is probably the worse form of manipulation you can get from a girl. It is directed to your virility and a form of castration. Removing the intimacy is like she's making a friend out of you. Always be willing to walk away.
 

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I suggest you take it a step further and tell them in the beginning your expectations.

I tell a girl before a LTR I expect sex twice a week minimum. If she cant or wont live up to that we cant be together.

But usually, I end up turning her down for sex because I'm so busy and many nights, rather just sleep
 

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I suggest you take it a step further and tell them in the beginning your expectations.

I tell a girl before a LTR I expect sex twice a week minimum. If she cant or wont live up to that we cant be together.

But usually, I end up turning her down for sex because I'm so busy and many nights, rather just sleep
That's a very fair and reasonable minimum. I expect it around twice that. Every time doesn't need to be a long drawn out ordeal, we just have to know the act got completed.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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That's a very fair and reasonable minimum. I expect it around twice that. Every time doesn't need to be a long drawn out ordeal, we just have to know the act got completed.
Eh, two busy adults with work and hobbies.. 4x a week is a bit tough.. But to each his own.
Lifes too short not to get what you want!

Also ive noticed my sex drive isnt as high as a lot of guys my age.. So.. Yeah any woman should be able to comply
 

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Eh, two busy adults with work and hobbies.. 4x a week is a bit tough.. But to each his own.
Lifes too short not to get what you want!

Also ive noticed my sex drive isnt as high as a lot of guys my age.. So.. Yeah any woman should be able to comply
It's a huge portion of America that is sexual that 2 x a week is perfect for. I'm an every day guy but miss a day or two so I'm not over doing it. There is no downside for me. Most women when you say at least 2x a week cannot fault you, and cannot think you are trying to get "too much".
 

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I know this breaks things more, if she wants to break it then I can't stop her. Withholding sex with me is just self-punishment, she's the one going to regret it. I've had my girlfriend try that a couple of times early in our relationship, not serious though but the harmless play does reveal my stance on things. She doesn't joke about it anymore. I told her she could stop having sex with me, but it's her loss as much as mine. If she claims she doesn't want it she knows it's a dealbreaker, why the fvck would I committ to celibacy right?

Suddenly the thought of denying me sex wasn't such a good idea when she realized she loves fvcking me, she's at loss for it and I'm not particularly bothered by this "punishment".
 

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I know this breaks things more, if she wants to break it then I can't stop her. Withholding sex with me is just self-punishment, she's the one going to regret it. I've had my girlfriend try that a couple of times early in our relationship, not serious though but the harmless play does reveal my stance on things. She doesn't joke about it anymore. I told her she could stop having sex with me, but it's her loss as much as mine. If she claims she doesn't want it she knows it's a dealbreaker, why the fvck would I committ to celibacy right?

Suddenly the thought of denying me sex wasn't such a good idea when she realized she loves fvcking me, she's at loss for it and I'm not particularly bothered by this "punishment".
To me, if a woman even hints at this let alone attempts it, she just assured i will not feel any emotion nor ever do any commitment for her. Use their own game against them by saying a "soulmate" or someone who "loves" would never think of this thing, so youre not meant to be with each other. Then downgrade to booty call if you like her pvssy.
 

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To me, if a woman even hints at this let alone attempts it, she just assured i will not feel any emotion nor ever do any commitment for her. Use their own game against them by saying a "soulmate" or someone who "loves" would never think of this thing, so youre not meant to be with each other. Then downgrade to booty call if you like her pvssy.
It takes some testing to see if a man is a man, blind trust is never good. I will tolerate them joking hypothetically about it to test the waters. Actions speak louder than words anyways, I don't take it that seriously before they actually take action on it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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For those in relationships , married or have a steady plate(s).
As men we always try to fix things or make sense out of things. Most of the time when a woman withholds sex , it's a test to see of you have other options.
So when a WIFE withholds sex from her husband,it's to see if he has other options???

Wow. Well that's a new one.....

 

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Oh man, I can't remember who said it, but someone on here had a kind of field report/experience where after a whole day of fun they were going back to the hotel room. On the way back she said "We're not having sex tonight by the way" and he respomded with "We? YOU aren't having sex tonight, but I am". He said the look on her face was priceless and then he had one of the most mind blowing sex experiences of his life. I have never forgotten that response. 10/10
 

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Oh man, I can't remember who said it, but someone on here had a kind of field report/experience where after a whole day of fun they were going back to the hotel room. On the way back she said "We're not having sex tonight by the way" and he respomded with "We? YOU aren't having sex tonight, but I am". He said the look on her face was priceless and then he had one of the most mind blowing sex experiences of his life. I have never forgotten that response. 10/10

Definitely using that!!!
 

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Oh man, I can't remember who said it, but someone on here had a kind of field report/experience where after a whole day of fun they were going back to the hotel room. On the way back she said "We're not having sex tonight by the way" and he respomded with "We? YOU aren't having sex tonight, but I am". He said the look on her face was priceless and then he had one of the most mind blowing sex experiences of his life. I have never forgotten that response. 10/10
I'm going to add that to my arsenal, married or not, and I think as long as you aren't being excesive and wanting "too much" sex, it will give parity in the control of sex. I'm going to say exactly that.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Unless there's an extremely good reason she has for denying you sex(one of you has a gaping bleeding wound, you're in a burning building, you're in a location filled with children, etc.) Then the purposeful denial of sex should be treated with a warning upon first offense then a relationship termination after that.

I'd just tell her "if we're not having sex then we're friends at best, and friends aren't exclusive"
 

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Unless there's an extremely good reason she has for denying you sex(one of you has a gaping bleeding wound, you're in a burning building, you're in a location filled with children, etc.) Then the purposeful denial of sex should be treated with a warning upon first offense then a relationship termination after that.

I'd just tell her "if we're not having sex then we're friends at best, and friends aren't exclusive"

And if you are currently in the "married" status?
 

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NEVER bargain sex.
Clearly you have never been to Thailand.

I don't quite understand where everyone here is having a hell of a time getting sex from their wife. When I want sex, I just roll my wife over and go. She's always keen, in fact if it was up to her, it would be all day, all night. I have to bargain for time away from her... that doesn't work so well.
 

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And if you are currently in the "married" status?
That depends.

If your wife was perfect and then changed, get her to change back or divorce her

If you married a woman who had many apparent flaws you looked past or without making sure she didn't have any major red flags, then you basically dug your own grave and are screwed.

You shouldn't marry a girl before she's had a chance to show her true colors.
 

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Clearly you have never been to Thailand.

I don't quite understand where everyone here is having a hell of a time getting sex from their wife. When I want sex, I just roll my wife over and go. She's always keen, in fact if it was up to her, it would be all day, all night. I have to bargain for time away from her... that doesn't work so well.
Not everyone had the foresight to marry a woman they were actually compatible with long term lol.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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